It's called voting with your feet.

Staff (and many customers of the same software) have had opportunities to work 
with many kinds of interfaces, including many choices still available within 
the existing software, including the public version of the catalog.

Staff prefer the tabular result screen for very specific reasons. In the past, 
staff would scan headings or brief displays and then opt to display a full 
version of the record. If they're looking for specific sets of records with 
similar data they would have to spend more time formulating limits for searches 
and then rebuild the search result each time. If the relevant data was found 
near the bottom of the record, that would mean staff would have to scroll or 
scan more data to find the relevant bit.

With a tabular search result, every column heading is clickable and the list 
can be sorted. The range of elements on display cover the majority of fields of 
interest for staff, and it's just more efficient to work that way. Some 
elements are variable fields; some are generated off of fixed fields. If 
anything, staff want more fields to display and more options to customize the 
display. More recently we've added the feature to convert those tables into 
tabular displays of all connected item records or all connected authority 
records. This means that staff are starting to see the benefits of pivoting 
around key data bits that are freed of rigid displays.

There's nothing wrong with having a default public display of data elements. 
However, having an unlabelled data element like "Edition statement" always in 
the same spot is not necessarily beneficial. If users have the option they 
would tend to want to organize tabular displays to suit their regular work 
requirements and adjust them for specific tasks. It shouldn't matter if Edition 
statement is in the middle of the table or at the end -- it has its meaning and 
its purpose for the FRBR user tasks. The way to get that flexibility is to have 
semantic clarity and consistency with all the data elements, and that means 
recognizing the limits in AACR2/MARC that were dealt with in RDA.

Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library

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From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Lamantia 
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Sent: June-07-12 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Bibliographic records vs. catalogue building

"...EMPHATICALLY it is not the preferred format that staff want to work in. 
Rather staff love the tabular format, where elements are arranged in rows and 
columns -- fantastic for sorting, fantastic for quickly discerning the nature 
of the result set."

Whose staff?  Under what conditions? In one sense, <I> am staff, and I most 
definitively do NOT prefer tabular format.  Is there empirical data to support 
this contention?  Studies, surveys?

Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS
Technical Services Librarian
Stark County District Library
715 Market Avenue North
Canton, OH 44702
330-458-2723
[email protected]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brenndorfer, Thomas [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Bibliographic records vs. catalogue building

"How that data is searched is a matter of the ILS, not AACR2 or MARC."

The last point is profoundly wrong.

Traditional cataloging still assumes a structure dependent on headings to 
gather related "editions" if you like.

The worst mistake is building all kinds of conditional or implicit rules in the 
layout of fields and having that dominate the logic of what ILS systems can do.

FRBR and RDA are explicit as to what the data elements are -- ISBD is one 
possible resulting display, but EMPHATICALLY it is not the preferred format 
that staff want to work in. Rather staff love the tabular format, where 
elements are arranged in rows and columns -- fantastic for sorting, fantastic 
for quickly discerning the nature of the result set. The main problems arise 
because of the gummed up displayed forced by ISBD, with sloppy punctuation 
intruding, or distinctions lost because systems can't filter on both MARC 
subfields and punctuation. What's has caused poor system design is the inane 
bridging across different fields (1XX+24X vs 700 name-title) or working with 
semantically different data elements within a field or even a single subfield!!

Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library

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From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[[email protected]] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod [[email protected]]
Sent: June-07-12 11:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Bibliographic records vs. catalogue building

Heidrun said:

>Correct me if I've misunderstood how Anglo-American catalogs work. I've
>just tried it out in your own catalog: Typing in, e.g. "lew tolstoi war
>peace" in "keyword" doesn't give me even one edition, let alone all of
>them ...

This has nothing to do with AACR2 cataloguing, but with ILS search software, 
which is why we should be developing advanced search capability, not fooling 
around with catalogue rules and a replacement coding scheme.

AACR2 has us describe an edition by transcribing bibliographic data elements as 
chosen by, and in the order of, the ISBD, adding to that notes, classification, 
and access points.  MARC has us code that information, and add fixed codes 
(some redundant with present search possibilities).

How that data is searched is a matter of the ILS, not AACR2 or MARC.

With the end of the card catalogue, too many of us abandoned catalogue 
construction to computer people, and limited ourselves to under utilized  
bibliographic record creation


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