Since we do cataloging based on manifestations, different manifestations of the same work have different bib-records. So GMD is more helpful for looking at lists of searching results, for example, a list of titles. When have the same title, you can make a basic decision based on GMD showing after the title. You do not have to click each title to see what it is. But I do not know how the search results would be displayed based on FRBR.
Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Kathleen Lamantia < [email protected]> wrote: > Yes, sorry, of course these are not AACR2 terms, but we do use them and > have for years. In fact, they were carefully chosen before I got here. > They convey exactly what is needed to staff. As I said in my earlier > post, III's field 30 MAT TYPE generates icons which are for patrons using > the public display. > > The 245|h[gmd] is more for staff who see the Millennium interface while > performing searches. However, the 245 also appears in the OPAC as an added > piece of information for patrons. > > I did not explain all this earlier out of respect for the time of list > readers. I apologize if there was confusion. > > Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS > Technical Services Librarian > Stark County District Library > 715 Market Avenue North > Canton, OH 44702 > 330-458-2723 > [email protected] > Inspiring Ideas * Enriching Lives * Creating Community > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Rochkind [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 3:34 PM > To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > Cc: Kathleen Lamantia > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Additional work required by RDA > > You have "DVD", "Compact Disc" and "Comic Book" as GMD's in 245$h? > > This is curious to me, and I wonder what your data source is for records > with these GMD's. None of those are on the 'standard' list of GMDs, and you > won't generally find any of those used as GMD's on MARC from OCLC or LC. > > The actual standard GMD's are much less useful for patrons in most > environments then the ones you use as examples, and indeed the > not-so-useful nature of the standard GMD's most of us have is, in my > impression, part of what motivated trying to come up with a more reasonable > and flexible system for recording form/format data, which was actually a > multi-year (10? more?) process/discussion, one product of which is the RDA > 3xx vocabularies. > > On 10/23/2012 2:36 PM, Kathleen Lamantia wrote: > > Agreed, and thank you for the suggestion. > > > > But, back to the original question - why do the extra work? > > > > Our current gmds are very clear and succinct: dvd, compact disc, comic > book; book on cd, etc. Why make people try to figure out a combination of 3 > terms when one simple clear statement is already in place and tells them > what they need? "People" in this case being staff who are trying to get > items to patrons. > > > > Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS > > Technical Services Librarian > > Stark County District Library > > 715 Market Avenue North > > Canton, OH 44702 > > 330-458-2723 > > [email protected] > > Inspiring Ideas * Enriching Lives * Creating Community > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Arakawa, Steven [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:31 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Additional work required by RDA > > > > Kevin, you're right--thanks for pointing this out. The example would > have been helped with an additional 3xx for the primary > content/media/carrier type. However, I still think the fields themselves > could be translated into more comprehensible terms in the OPAC, especially > if labels were assigned. > > > > Steven Arakawa > > Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation Catalog & Metadata > > Services, SML, Yale University P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT > > 06520-8240 > > (203)432-8286 [email protected] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and > > Access [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin M > > Randall > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:39 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Additional work required by RDA > > > > Steven Arakawa wrote: > > > >> Although the $a terms may be incomprehensible to the public, locally > >> you could selectively add $3 to 338 with more appropriate carrier > >> terms and include the more specific terms in the display; you would > >> have more control over the terminology that best suits your user > >> community. The 338 > >> $3 carrier term could be keyword indexed and could be set to display > >> with the brief title and/or as part of a labeled, full record display > >> with the $3 terms for content and media type. > > > > 33X subfield $3 is for "Materials specified", meaning the portion of the > resource to which the field applies. The example: > > > > 338 ## $a sheet $2 rdacarrier $3 liner notes > > > > means that for the resource being described, the carrier type term > "sheet" applies to the liner notes, not to the audiodisc or videodisc that > it accompanies. > > > > Subfield $3 is not for an alternative term to the one given in $a. The > definition of subfield $3 for the 33X fields parallels the definition in > other fields such as 490. > > > > Kevin M. Randall > > Principal Serials Cataloger > > Northwestern University Library > > [email protected] > > (847) 491-2939 > > > > Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1978! > > > -- Joan Wang Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
