The distinction between “artist” and “illustrator” currently exists in the 
choices for main entry heading. Catalogers have to know that an artist can be a 
main entry heading, and an illustrator can only be an added entry. The 
distinction comes down to knowing what is the work and what is the expression 
(that is, in knowing that an illustrator has only contributed to the 
realization of a work, but is not responsible for the primary intellectual or 
creative content of the work).
These categorizations may seem arbitrary, but they are still the basis for 
traditional cataloging, and reappear as entity-relationships in RDA. RDA does 
go a bit further in recognizing that there may be more types of relationships 
beyond the crude main/added entry distinction. For example, a Creator may also 
have a Contributor role (as in Composer and Singer). This can be seen in the 
second RDA/MARC example in 
http://www.rdatoolkit.org/sites/default/files/6jsc_rda_complete_examples_bibliographic_jul0312_rev.pdf
Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu
Sent: November 26, 2012 11:08 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

And the searcher, in order to search successfully, would have to know this 
distinction in our use of a different qualifier for the same person under 
different circumstances, as well, I presume?

Jack Wu
Franciscan University of Steubenville
j...@franciscan.edu<mailto:j...@franciscan.edu>

>>> Jenny Wright <jenny.wri...@bibdsl.co.uk<mailto:jenny.wri...@bibdsl.co.uk>> 
>>> 11/26/2012 9:38 AM >>>
My understanding is that:
If the illustrations are integral to the work, the person who drew/painted them 
is a creator, or co-creator, and so the relationship designator should be 
“artist”.
If the illustrations are complementary to the work, and belong at expression 
level (they contribute to the realisation of the work), then the relationship 
designator should be “illustrator”.
What is more debatable is how one decides whether the art is integral to the 
work.  Could another artist could draw new comic strips for the same story, or 
new pictures for a juvenile picture book without changing it to a new work?
Jenny Wright
Development Manager
Bibliographic Data Services Ltd.




From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu
Sent: 26 November 2012 14:30
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

Then, in MARC, it can sometimes be using $e illustrator, but at other times $e 
artist? Or would one be using both terms? It's somewhat confusing to me.

Jack Wu
Franciscan University of Steubenville
j...@franciscan.edu<mailto:j...@franciscan.edu>

>>> JSC Secretary 
>>> <jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org<mailto:jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org>> 
>>> 11/23/2012 8:14 AM >>>
Jenny,

The LC-PCC PS you cite is in chapter 20, the chapter for contributors, and 
states the policy requiring an authorized access point for the first 
illustrator (someone with responsibility for the expression, not the work). If 
the person involved in your resource has responsibility at the work level as a 
creator, you would not be consulting chapter 20.

Yes, the only creator-level term in appenidx I is "artist" because 
"illustrator" there is the term for a relationship at the expression level.

Judy Kuhagen
JSC Secretary

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Jenny Wright 
<jenny.wri...@bibdsl.co.uk<mailto:jenny.wri...@bibdsl.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi All
I am looking at how to deal with children's picture books using RDA rules, and 
would like to know what others think.

I think of children's picture books as being co-created by the author and the 
illustrator, and I believe it would be a different work if there were different 
illustrations, rather than a different expression.

My reading of RDA is that if I believe a person to be a co-creator of a work, 
rather than a contributor to an expression, then the only available 
relationship designator for the illustrator is "artist".

However, there is an LC-PCC PS stating
"Provide an authorized access point in the bibliographic record for an 
illustrator in all cases of resources intended for children. Give the RDA 
appendix I designator "illustrator" in MARC 700 subfield $e."

Can anyone help explain this apparent anomaly?
Thank you
Jenny Wright
Development manager
Bibliographic Data Services Ltd.

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