Hi Joan,

That's my understanding, yes. (I'm a recently finished MLS student, so take
this with a grain of salt.)

Also, note that the associated LC-PCC PS for 9.19.1.3 says to add the dates
to all new authority records even if not needed to distinguish (in other
words, apply the option).

-Arthur





On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Joan Wang <[email protected]>wrote:

>   Hi, Liu
>
> So it does not have to appear in 100/700 fields if it is not needed to
> distinguish...But it will be encoded in 046 field as a core element.
> Right?
>
> Thank you.
> Joan
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Arthur Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joan,
>>
>> Regarding Q2, I think if the dates of birth/death are not needed to
>> distinguish the person (and therefore not included in the *authorized
>> access point* element), the dates would still be recorded as a separate
>> element (e.g. MARC 046).
>>
>> -Arthur Liu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Joan Wang 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi, all
>>>
>>> I have two questions about authorized access points for
>>> person/family/corporate body.
>>>
>>> Q1:
>>>
>>> RDA 18.3 says that creator is a core element. If there is more than one,
>>> only the principle or the first-named creator is required. It also says
>>> that other person/family/corporate body associated with a work is a
>>> core element (if the access point representing that person/family/
>>> corporate body is used to construct the authorized access point
>>> representing the work). But it does not mention the situation of “more than
>>> one”. I assume that we can follow the requirement for creator if there is
>>> more than one person/family/corporate body associated with a work other
>>> than a creator.
>>>
>>> Q2:
>>>
>>> RDA 9.2 -9.18 says that three additions, title, date associated with a
>>> person (birth/death), and other designation associated with the person, are
>>> core, in addition to the preferred name for person. RDA 9.19.1.1 instructs
>>> to construct authorized access point for person. It says “make the
>>> additions specified at *9.19.1.2* (title or other designation
>>> associated with the person) *even if they are not needed* to
>>> distinguish access points representing different persons with the same
>>> name”. I cannot understand why it does not include date associated with a
>>> person. Date of birth/death is actually included in 
>>> 9.19.1.3<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp9&target=rda9-5621#rda9-5621>
>>> –9.19.1.6[image: 
>>> http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp9&target=rda9-5694#rda9-5694>
>>> *if they are needed* to distinguish access points representing
>>> different persons with the same name. My understanding is if we define date
>>> of birth/death as a core element, it (if known) should be included in
>>> whatever situations.
>>>
>>> Any advice or thought? Or I overlooked something? I am not an expert. I
>>> am learning :)
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Joan Wang
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
>>> Cataloger -- CMC
>>> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
>>> 6725 Goshen Road
>>> Edwardsville, IL 62025
>>> 618.656.3216x409
>>> 618.656.9401Fax
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
> Cataloger -- CMC
> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
> 6725 Goshen Road
> Edwardsville, IL 62025
> 618.656.3216x409
> 618.656.9401Fax
>

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