Is a filmmaker (a corporate body) considered to be a creator under this
rule?

d)      *Works that result from the collective activity of a performing
group as a whole *where the responsibility of the group goes beyond that of
mere performance, execution, etc.
I tried to figure out any examples. But ...

Thank you very much.

Joan


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Adam L. Schiff <[email protected]>wrote:

> Thomas,
>
> What you said about films is not quite totally correct.  Appendix I does
> have a relationship designator under creator of work:
>
> filmmaker A person, family, or corporate body responsible for creating an
> independent or personal film. A filmmaker is individually responsible for
> the conception and execution of all aspects of the film.
>
> For a very small subset of films, if one person/family/corporate body were
> responsible for all aspects, that entity would be the creator of the work
> and the film would be named using the combination of Creater/Preferred
> title.  This is most likely to happen for student works and home movies, I
> imagine.  If you think of all of those YouTube videos where someone points
> a camera at themselves and just talks to the camera, I think that would be
> a case that would fall under the designator "filmmaker".
>
> Adam
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> On Mon, 13 May 2013, Brenndorfer, Thomas wrote:
>
>  If an "other" person/family/corporate body associated with the work is
>> used to construct the authorized access point representing the work, then
>> that *one* person, family or corporate body associated with the work is the
>> core element.
>>
>> Another way to state this is to say whoever became the main entry in
>> AACR2 is a core element value in RDA (the instructions for authorized
>> access points for works in RDA 6.27-6.31 are where one finds the equivalent
>> to AACR2 main entry rules). Only one person, family or corporate body is
>> chosen for that spot, whether it's a "creator" or an "other associated with
>> the work."
>>
>> In MARC terms, what RDA 18.3 is saying is that the name found in the 1XX
>> field is the core element, but names found in 7XX fields are not core
>> elements.
>>
>>
>> Interestingly, for moving image works like movies, there is no core
>> relationship element. All persons or corporate bodies associated with the
>> work when it comes to movies fall under the element "Other Person, Family
>> or Corporate Body Associated with the Work" (examples: film director, film
>> producer). There are none that fall under the "Creator" element.
>>
>> But because the authorized access point for a moving image work is formed
>> only with the preferred title (RDA 6.27.1.3) then there is no person or
>> corporate body that becomes part of the authorized access point for a
>> moving image work. Therefore, the director or producer for a moving image
>> work are not core elements.
>>
>> In other words, in the case of a movie, there may be several people that
>> fall under the element "Other Person, Family or Corporate Body Associated
>> with the Work" but not a single one of them becomes a core element because
>> none of them are used to form the authorized access point for the movie.
>>
>>
>> Thomas Brenndorfer
>> Guelph Public Library
>>
>>
>>
>>  From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
>>> [mailto:[email protected]**BAC.GC.CA <[email protected]>]
>>> On Behalf Of Joan Wang
>>> Sent: May-13-13 1:21 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body
>>>
>>
>> Hi, all
>> I have two questions about authorized access points for
>> person/family/corporate body.
>> Q1:
>> RDA 18.3 says that creator is a core element. If there is more than one,
>> only the principle or the first-named creator is required. It also says
>> that other person/family/corporate body associated with a work is a core
>> element (if the access point representing that person/family/ corporate
>> body is used to construct the authorized access point representing the
>> work). But it does not mention the situation of "more than one". I assume
>> that we can follow the requirement for creator if there is more than one
>> person/family/corporate body associated with a work other than a creator.
>>
>>


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