Ben,
your two cents are, as usual, worth a lot more than that ;-)
I hadn't realized that RDA has brought a change here. Now I understand
why I found so many cases of the conference name as other title
information in the catalogs.
Thanks also for pointing out the subtle difference in the wording here.
Up to now, although of course I had noticed the changed wording, I
hadn't really thought about the implications.
Heidrun
On 05.08.2013 20:04, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
Under AACR2 and perhaps even earlier practice, it was quite common to
treat the conference name as other title information and so put it in $b:
$a Biblitheken für die Zukunft, Zukunft für die Bibliotheken : $b 100.
deutscher Bibliothekartag in Berlin 2011 / $c herausgegeben von Ulrich
hohff und Daniel Lülfing.
Since "Main Entry" was understood as a simply cataloging device for
collocating resources in a useful fashion, the fact that what appeared
in the 1xx (the conference) was not in the statement of responsibility
did not seem to trouble anyone.
But with RDA having banished "Main Entry" in favor of relationships,
and having declared (19.2.1.1.1.d) a conference proceedings the
"creation" of a conference (note how, in the AACR2 equivalent, 21.1B2,
the phrase is "a work emanating from one or more corporate bodies",
whereas as RDA says, "Corporate bodies are considered to be creators")
there seems to be an (unspoken?) re-evaluation of this practice in
favor of putting the conference in the $c:
$a Biblitheken für die Zukunft, Zukunft für die Bibliotheken / $c 100.
deutscher Bibliothekartag in Berlin 2011 ; herausgegeben von Ulrich
hohff und Daniel Lülfing.
I don't think there is a specific chapter and verse where this is
stated but it's what I've been seeing in OCLC lately. Of course the
real question is: is "100. deutscher Bibliothekartag in Berlin 2011"
other title information, or a statement of responsibility? I think the
answer is likely, "Both", so I'm afraid we probably shouldn't expect
to see consistency in the way catalogers treat it.
My .02,
--Ben
Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
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Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] *On Behalf Of *Gene Fieg
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*Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other
title information or statement of responsiblity
I meant area of responsibility. The 245 line would read [title] / |c
[name of conference]
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller
<wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de
<mailto:wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de>> wrote:
Gene,
Without seeing the actual item, I would place it in the area of resp.
Sorry, that was too much shorthand for a non-native speaker:
Does "resp" here mean the same as "depends"? If so, on what - the layout?
If you want to have a closer look, here's a scan of the title page:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2aFdx26Qi9sMDhIb1lZMFE2SlU/edit
It's a typical case of conference proceedings, a collection of papers
given at the so-called "Bibliothekartag" (the German equivalent to the
ALA conference, with about 4.000 participants). My reading is that
such proceedings originate with the conference, and therefore that the
conference is seen as the creator.
I apologize for being so insistent. But it's an example from my
teaching collection, and I would very much like to get a sound RDA
solution for it (or perhaps several acceptable solutions, if that's
how it is).
Thanks again,
Heidrun
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