Hi! I think it is extremely confusing because, under 3.4.4, "still image" includes paintings (without specifying what the carrier must be), while under 3.5.3, the rule for dimensions only applies to documents "on sheet" (therefore, I assume a painting on canvas, a fresco on plaster slab or an encaustic on wood panel would have to be measured according to 3.5.1).
One of the major problems is that exceptionally (and for pragmatic reasons), the rules for graphic and cartographic materials refer to the resource's content (e.g. "still image") rather than to the actual carrier (e.g. the sheet of paper). Therefore, in chap. 3, rules for "still images" must be nuanced, each time, according to the specific carrier and media (as we can see both under 3.4.4 and 3.5.3)... Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho Bibliothécaire Direction du traitement documentaire des collections patrimoniales Bibliothèque et Archives nationales du Québec 2275, rue Holt Montréal (Québec) H2G 3H1 Téléphone : 514-873-1101 poste 3730 mc.coe...@banq.qc.ca www.banq.qc.ca Avis de confidentialité Ce courriel est une communication confidentielle et l'information qu'il contient est réservée à l'usage exclusif du destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire visé, vous n'avez aucun droit d'utiliser cette information, de la copier, de la distribuer ou de la diffuser. Si cette communication vous a été transmise par erreur, veuillez la détruire et nous en aviser immédiatement par courriel. -----Message d'origine----- De : Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] De la part de Heidrun Wiesenmüller Envoyé : 15 août 2013 15:33 À : RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Objet : Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3 Greta said: > I thought that if we decided something was a still image rather than > text, that we were required to use the list of still image carriers > for the extent at RDA 3.4.4.2. In that case, neither pages nor volume > are in that list, so i think you are stuck with 300 photographs. Good point. But I think that the first sentence in 3.4.4.1 only refers to "real" drawings, photographs etc., and not to reproductions of them: "For a resource consisting of one or more still images in the form of drawings, paintings, prints, photographs, etc., record the extent by applying the instructions at 3.4.4.2-3.4.4.5." So, in the case of the coffee-table book I believe 3.4.4.2-3.4.4.5 does not apply. RDA goes on to say: "For resources consisting of still images in other media (e.g., slides, transparencies), apply the basic instructions at 3.4.1." So it seems that our coffee-table book should belong there, but of course it is noteworthy that the examples given are slides and transparencies, and not printed material. Then in 3.4.1 we stumble over the exception for text: "For resources consisting of printed or manuscript text (with or without accompanying illustrations), see 3.4.5." We've already decided that the pictures in the book are not accompanying illustrations. On the other hand, in 3.4.5.1 the scope is slightly differently phrased: "For a printed or manuscript resource consisting of text (with or without illustrations) ...". I'd say as long as my book has a bit of text (it probably will have some introductory pages and captions for the photographs) I'm fine with using 3.4.5. But I agree that it's all a bit fishy here. Also, what would we do if the book had only the photographs, and absolutely no text at all? Then we'd have to use the basic rule in 3.4.1.3. The carrier type would still be "volume", so my guess is: "1 volume (300 photographs)". Isn't RDA fun? Heidrun -- --------------------- Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A. Stuttgart Media University Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi