Hi!

I think it is extremely confusing because, under 3.4.4, "still image" includes 
paintings (without specifying what the carrier must be), while under 3.5.3, the 
rule for dimensions only applies to documents "on sheet" (therefore, I assume a 
painting on canvas, a fresco on plaster slab or an encaustic on wood panel 
would have to be measured according to 3.5.1).

One of the major problems is that exceptionally (and for pragmatic reasons), 
the rules for graphic and cartographic materials refer to the resource's 
content (e.g. "still image") rather than to the actual carrier (e.g. the sheet 
of paper). Therefore, in chap. 3, rules for "still images" must be nuanced, 
each time, according to the specific carrier and media (as we can see both 
under 3.4.4 and 3.5.3)... 

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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] De la part de Heidrun Wiesenmüller
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Objet : Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

Greta said:

> I thought that if we decided something was a still image rather than 
> text, that we were required to use the list of still image carriers 
> for the extent at RDA 3.4.4.2. In that case, neither pages nor volume 
> are in that list, so i think you are stuck with 300 photographs.

Good point. But I think that the first sentence in 3.4.4.1 only refers 
to "real" drawings, photographs etc., and not to reproductions of them: 
"For a resource consisting of one or more still images in the form of 
drawings, paintings, prints, photographs, etc., record the extent by 
applying the instructions at 3.4.4.2-3.4.4.5." So, in the case of the 
coffee-table book I believe 3.4.4.2-3.4.4.5 does not apply.

RDA goes on to say: "For resources consisting of still images in other 
media (e.g., slides, transparencies), apply the basic instructions at 
3.4.1." So it seems that our coffee-table book should belong there, but 
of course it is noteworthy that the examples given are slides and 
transparencies, and not printed material.

Then in 3.4.1 we stumble over the exception for text: "For resources 
consisting of printed or manuscript text (with or without accompanying 
illustrations), see 3.4.5."

We've already decided that the pictures in the book are not accompanying 
illustrations. On the other hand, in 3.4.5.1 the scope is slightly 
differently phrased: "For a printed or manuscript resource consisting of 
text (with or without illustrations) ...". I'd say as long as my book 
has a bit of text (it probably will have some introductory pages and 
captions for the photographs) I'm fine with using 3.4.5.

But I agree that it's all a bit fishy here. Also, what would we do if 
the book had only the photographs, and absolutely no text at all? Then 
we'd have to use the basic rule in 3.4.1.3. The carrier type would still 
be "volume", so my guess is: "1 volume (300 photographs)".

Isn't RDA fun?

Heidrun




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