Greg,
Thanks! Yes, very helpful. I will need to digest the detailed information
you have provided. I am somewhat familiar with recursive SMARTS. Thanks
again.
Regards,
Jim Metz
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Landrum <greg.land...@gmail.com>
To: James T. Metz <jamestm...@aol.com>
Cc: RDKit Discuss <rdkit-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 11, 2017 11:15 am
Subject: Re: [Rdkit-discuss] how to output multiple Kekule structures
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:55 PM, James T. Metz <jamestm...@aol.com> wrote:
Greg,
I need to be able to use SMARTS patterns to identify substructures in
molecules
that can be aromatic, and I need to be able to handle cases where there can be
differences in the way that the molecule was entered or drawn by a user.
That particular problem is a big part of the reason that we tend to use the
aromatic representation of things.
For example, consider the following alkenyl-substituted pyridine, there
are two possible Kekule structures
m1 = 'C=CC1=NC=CC=C1'
m2 = 'C=CC1N=CC=CC1'
Fixing what I assume is a typo for m2, I can do the following:
In [11]: m1 = Chem.MolFromSmiles('C=CC1=NC=CC=C1')
In [12]: m2 = Chem.MolFromSmiles('C=CC1N=CC=CC=1')
In [13]: q1 = Chem.MolFromSmarts('cccc')
In [14]: q2 = Chem.MolFromSmarts('cccn')
In [15]: list(m1.GetSubstructMatch(q1))
Out[15]: [2, 7, 6, 5]
In [16]: list(m1.GetSubstructMatch(q2))
Out[16]: [6, 5, 4, 3]
In [17]: list(m2.GetSubstructMatch(q1))
Out[17]: [2, 7, 6, 5]
In [18]: list(m2.GetSubstructMatch(q2))
Out[18]: [6, 5, 4, 3]
Those particular queries were going for the aromatic species and will only
match inside the ring, but if you want to be more generic you could tune your
queries like this:
In [28]: q3 =
Chem.MolFromSmarts('[#6;$([#6]=,:[*])]-,=,:[#6;$([#6]=,:[*])]-,=,:[#6;$([#6]=,:[*])]-,=,:[#6;$([#6]-=,:[*])]')
In [29]: q4 =
Chem.MolFromSmarts('[#6;$([#6]=,:[*])]-,=,:[#6;$([#6]=,:[*])]-,=,:[#6;$([#6]=,:[*])]-,=,:[#7;$([#7]-=,:[*])]')
In [30]: list(m1.GetSubstructMatch(q3))
Out[30]: [0, 1, 2, 7]
In [31]: list(m1.GetSubstructMatch(q4))
Out[31]: [0, 1, 2, 3]
In [32]: list(m2.GetSubstructMatch(q3))
Out[32]: [0, 1, 2, 7]
In [33]: list(m2.GetSubstructMatch(q4))
Out[33]: [0, 1, 2, 3]
If you aren't familiar with recursive SMARTS, this construct:
"[#6;$([#6]=,:[*])]" means "a carbon that has either a double bond or an
aromatic bond to another atom". So you can interpret q3 as "four carbons that
each have either a double or aromatic bond and that are connected to each other
by single, double, or aromatic bonds".
Is this starting to approximate what you're looking for?
-greg
Now consider two SMARTS
pattern1 = '[C]=[C]-[C]={C]
pattern2 = '[C]=[C]-[C]=[N]'
I need to be able to detect the existence of each pattern in the molecule
If m1 is the only available generated Kekule structure, then pattern2 will
be recognized.
If m2 is the only available generated Kekule structure, then pattern1 will
be recognized.
Hence, I am getting different answers for the same input molecule just
because
it was drawn in different Kekule structures.
Regards,
Jim Metz
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Landrum <greg.land...@gmail.com>
To: James T. Metz <jamestm...@aol.com>
Cc: RDKit Discuss <rdkit-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 11, 2017 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [Rdkit-discuss] how to output multiple Kekule structures
Hi Jim,
The code currently has no way to enumerate Kekule structures. I don't recall
this coming up in the past and, to be honest, it doesn't seem all that
generally useful.
Perhaps there's an alternate way to solve the problem; what are you trying to
do?
-greg
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, James T. Metz via Rdkit-discuss
<rdkit-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
Hello,
Suppose I read in an aromatic SMILES e.g., for benzene
c1ccccc1
I would like to generate the major canonical resonance forms
and save the results as two separate molecules. Essentially
I am trying to generate
m1 = 'C1=CC=CC-C1'
m2 = 'C1C=CC=CC1'
Can this be done in RDkit? I have found a KEKULE_ALL
option in the detailed documentation which seems to be what I
am trying to do, but I don't understand how this option is to be used,
or the proper syntax.
If it is necessary to somehow renumber the atoms and re-generate
Kekule structures, that is OK. Thank you.
Regards,
Jim Metz
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