Hi Greg,

Thank you, it's great to hear that it's fixed! I'll give it a try with the
next release.

Best,
Ivan

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:38 PM, Greg Landrum <greg.land...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> As an FYI: the changes to carry reactant atom indices over into reaction
> products are already merged and will be in the next release.
>
> Here’s the issue connected to the changes:
> https://github.com/rdkit/rdkit/issues/1269
>
>
> Best,
> -greg
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 18:23, Ivan Tubert-Brohman <ivan.tubert-brohman@
> schrodinger.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Connor,
>>
>> Thank you for your suggestions! I think the isotope hack will work for me
>> for now, but for the longer term it would be nicer to have the official
>> version of RDKit provide sufficient atom mapping information, so I'll
>> consider that as well.
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Connor Coley <cco...@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ivan,
>>>
>>> This is something I ran into a couple years ago - it's a pretty easy
>>> fix.
>>>
>>> One approach is to update the source with a few lines to copy over the
>>> atom map numbers from the reactants to the products as a new field. You can
>>> see the necessary changes to the code in my forked version here:
>>> https://github.com/rdkit/rdkit/commit/0a8393fbf89e486ed67f2a44f9a7ea
>>> 8d9f2efd95
>>>
>>> Another approach is more hacky but might be good enough for your use
>>> case. If your reactions don't involve isotopic changes or require specific
>>> isotopes, you can set unique isotope numbers for every reacting atom. Those
>>> will be preserved in the products so you can get the atom-atom mapping
>>> after running the reaction.
>>>
>>> Connor
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:36 AM Ivan Tubert-Brohman <
>>> ivan.tubert-broh...@schrodinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to know where each atom in a reaction product came from, but
>>>> as far as I can tell, RDKit doesn't provide enough information. Here's what
>>>> I found out empirically so far.
>>>>
>>>> There are four kinds of product atoms:
>>>>
>>>> 1. New atoms: atoms are defined in the product template without a
>>>> mapping number. These can't be mapped to reactant atoms, so there's no
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Unmatched atoms: atoms that were not matched by any atom from the
>>>> reactant template but were carried over to the product because they were
>>>> connected (directly or indirectly) to a mapped reactant atom. These have
>>>> the "react_atom_idx" property, which holds the atom index of the atom in
>>>> the reactant molecule. This is useful as long as the reactant side has only
>>>> one molecule; when there are multiple molecules, it is not clear which
>>>> reactant molecule a product atom came from.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Mapped dummy atoms: atoms which are defined as dummies in the
>>>> product template and have a mapping number (e.g., [*:1]). These also get a
>>>> "react_atom_idx" property, as well as an "old_mapno" property which holds
>>>> the mapping number (1 for [*:1])
>>>>
>>>> 4. Mapped non-dummy atoms: atoms which are NOT defined as dummies in
>>>> the product template and have a mapping number (e.g., [C:1]).  These
>>>> have "old_mapno", but no "react_atom_idx".
>>>>
>>>> One thing I tried was to add my own unique atom identifier property to
>>>> all reactant atoms before applying the reaction, but that didn't help
>>>> because mapped atoms (types 3 and 4) don't preserve user properties (I
>>>> guess these atoms are seen as "replacements" for the atoms they mapped,
>>>> rather than "copies"?)
>>>>
>>>> I'd be willing to hack the RDKit source code if necessary and
>>>> contribute my changes, but before starting such a project I'd like to hear
>>>> if it's reasonable.
>>>>
>>>> One possibility would be to preserve user properties for mapped atoms.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively we could add react_atom_idx to mapped non-dummy atoms,
>>>> and also add a new "react_mol_idx" property?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Ivan
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