Hi, it seems to me that neither is aromatic since the N-substituted hetero ring breaks the Huckel rule by having 7 e- (2 from the N and 1 each from the 5 Cs). If you remove 1 e- from the N (so it's [n+]) and also make the external double bond into a single (picking up a proton on the other N) it becomes pyridinium which is certainly aromatic.
[n+]12ccccc1NCCC2 [n+]12ccccc1NC.CC2 What does it make of those? Cheers -- Ian On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 10:37, Francis Atkinson <fran...@ebi.ac.uk> wrote: > Hello, > > In the following pair of molecules, the bicyclic is non-aromatic, > whereas the 'ring-opened' analogue is aromatic... > > In [1]: from rdkit import Chem > > In [2]: Chem.MolToSmiles(Chem.MolFromSmiles('n12ccccc1=NCCC2')) > Out[2]: 'C1=CC2=NCCCN2C=C1' > > In [3]: Chem.MolToSmiles(Chem.MolFromSmiles('n12ccccc1=NC.CC2')) > Out[3]: 'CCn1ccccc1=NC' > > Notebook version: > > https://nbviewer.jupyter.org/gist/flatkinson/b88eb42510a79594a9e37042eeb7e224 > > This seems counter-intuitive to me: I don't see why the pyridine in the > first molecule shouldn't be aromatic, just as it is in the second. > > Am I missing something here? > > Thanks, > > Francis > > -- > Dr Francis L Atkinson > > Chemogenomics Group > European Bioinformatics Institute (EMBL-EBI) > European Molecular Biology Laboratory > Wellcome Genome Campus > Hinxton > Cambridge CB10 1SD > United Kingdom > > (01223) 494473 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rdkit-discuss mailing list > Rdkit-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rdkit-discuss >
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