You can get Hydrocaps direct from Hydrocap Corp., 975 N.W. 95 Street, Miami, FL 
33150, Tel 305-696-2504. I gave up trying to buy them after they returned my 
check twice. They wanted more info about charge rates and battery dimensions 
even though I filled out their order form and talked to them twice. I think 
they were concerned because the Hydrocaps from the old set of the same IBE 
cells did not fit on the new cells even though they were the same model IBE 
cells. Instead, I'm getting a garden sprayer and will check and fill the cells 
as needed. I'll check the cells every 2 months in the first year and then 
determine the inspection frequency. The batteries are on a Sunny Boy/Island 
grid-tie PV system so inspection will probably be 2 to 4 times per year after 
the first year.

Joel Davidson
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Allan Sindelar 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering


  One person's opinion, here...
  Avoid Hydrocaps. You need to remove them to equalize. They can clog up and 
plug the battery up, leading to an explosion from pressure. I have seen it.


  <![endif]--> 
  Allan Sindelar
  [email protected]
  NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer
  EE98J Journeyman Electrician
  Positive Energy, Inc.
  3201 Calle Marie
  Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507
  505 424-1112
  www.positiveenergysolar.com



  [email protected] wrote: 
    Hydrocaps - they run around $30 each last I checked. We used to sell them 
but gave up when lead times went from weeks to months.

    
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    Northern Arizona Wind & Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979
    Solar Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/
    
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Andrew Truitt 
      To: RE-wrenches 
      Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:07 PM
      Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering



      Has anyone ever used the recombination caps that combine the released 
hydrogen with oxygen and return the pure water to the cells?  I am considering 
them for a large ([98] 2200Ah Surrettes) battery system that we installed a 
while ago, but I think they run about $200 a piece.  


      Andrew Truitt
      Standard Solar Inc.




      On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Joel Davidson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        Than you Roy, Jay, Jeff, and ...

        I'm glad I checked my email before going to Pep Boys to buy an 
automotive battery filler. Great idea! I've been buying and selling batteries 
for over 35 years and this is the first time I've heard about using a garden 
sprayer to fill batteries. The RE-Wrenches knowledge base scores again!

        Happy Holidays.
        Joel Davidson


        ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Butler" 
<[email protected]> 

        To: "RE-wrenches" <[email protected]>

        Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:50 AM 

        Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering



        Joel,

        I was waiting to see if others use my method but I didn't see anyone
        post it.
        I've been off grid and having to maintain my batteries since 1997. I 
grew to
        hate the battery watering jugs for several reasons and finally came up 
with
        something that works for me.....your results may vary!

        I now use a pump up type garden sprayer. I use a 1.5 gallon version 
with a
        plastic wand, spray tip removed. I pump it up 6-8 times and that 
pressure
        allows me to fill 3 to 4 cells, depending on the volume of water needed.

        What I like about this is that the wand reaches anywhere in the bank and
        most important, I can watch the cells fill. I put a piece of electrical
        tape around
        the wand and insert the wand into the cell to the tape level. This is my
        water
        level and it's really easy to tell when the electrolyte reaches the end
        of the wand.

        About 1/2 of my customers are off grid and most use the sprayer method 
with
        good results.

        BTW, this was a brand new sprayer, dedicated to distilled water and 
hidden
        away from my wife, who loves to grab what ever is available in my shop.
        And at
        least here in snow country, the sprayers are all on sale!

        Roy Butler
        NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer®
        NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer
        PA Sunshine Program Approved PV Installer
        Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
        8902 Route 46
        Arkport, NY 14807
        607-324-9747

        www.four-winds-energy.com

        Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message,
        a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.




        Joel Davidson wrote:

          Wrenches,

          Thank you for your feedback that automatic watering is not automatic 
or reliable. Valves can stick open (a flood) or shut (a dry cell) or not seat 
properly (dripping that becomes a slow flood). I'll get a 2.5 quart watering 
can sold at auto parts stores - unless you all have a better idea.

          Thanks again,
          Joel Davidson

          ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Davidson" 
<[email protected]>
          To: "RE-wrenches" <[email protected]>
          Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:14 PM
          Subject: Battery Automatic Watering



            Wrenches,

            We installed 48 each IBE 1-85N-15 cells (24 in series in 2 Direct 
Power & Water battery boxes). We do not want to use Hydrocaps. Your suggestions 
for an automatic watering system would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.

            Happy Holidays.
            Joel Davidson


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