Hello Bill,

I'm curious to know what the array STC DC rating to Fronius inverter AC rating 
you typically had? Thanks.

Peter Talmage

--- On Tue, 5/7/13, William Miller <will...@millersolar.com> wrote:

From: William Miller <will...@millersolar.com>
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Enphase / Inverter failures
To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 5:37 PM

BobO:

I too was hesitant to install micro inverters for the reasons you cite:  why 
should I have to go on a roof to replace electronics? and, should electronic 
components even be on a roof?

I am converted.  We have had a few failures, but a manageable percentage.  It 
does suck to go on the roof and to require two people in most cases, to replace 
an inverter, but we have managed.  I get $150.00 per inverter.  Not great, but 
better than nothing.   I add a few dollars to each Enphase install to build up 
a fund that, added to the manufacturer's reimbursement, covers my costs.  
Consider this:  to replace most 5Kw or above inverters requires two people 
anyway because of the weight of the inverter.  Furthermore, when a 5kw inverter 
fails you've got to get out there, stat, but when a 215 watt inverter fails, 
you can put it on your schedule for when you are next in the neighborhood.

I don't enjoy the PLC interference problems, which are rare. When they have 
occurred, Enphase provided continuous technical support, including factory 
evaluation of line filters and enhanced system analysis.  Did you know that 
each Enphase system has a built in spectrum analyzer? Tech support can provide 
a printout of interfering signals to help in troubleshooting.  Installing a 
separate AC load center to accept the AC return breakers helps with solving 
these problems.  I understand that the next release of Enphase inverters will 
be Wi-fi, eliminating the PLC protocol entirely.  When the communication works, 
(which it does most of the time) it is a very valuable resource.

Micro inverters have added a degree of flexibility in system design hitherto 
unavailable:  The Enphase has allowed us to retrofit a few older GTBB 
installations, for example tieing two SR100 modules to one M190 inverter.  We 
have also added a few micro inverters to string inverter systems that needed a 
few more watts but had no room for expansion either in existing strings into 
existing inverters, or no room on any wall for more string inverters.

I would encourage you to try an Enphase installation.  I have nothing to gain 
for saying that, I just like the product and I want my fellow wrenches to have 
all the resources to provide the best design for a given challenge.

We installed Fronius for awhile, but we had a greater than 300% failure rate 
(not a typo, every inverter failed at least 3 times).  There is not enough 
reimbursement in the world to compensate for that failure rate.  Most Fronius 
employees have been great to work with but two of them defamed me to an 
important client, and that has left me feeling less than supportive about 
Fronius.

I am curious, what is your failure rate with Fronius inverters?  What climactic 
environment are you in?  Do you have coastal influences?

Sincerely,

William Miller

At 01:21 PM 5/7/2013, you wrote:
> I'm one of the many installers who still won't touch a micro yet. It's not so 
> much that there were failures early on, it's how companies like Enphase 
> HANDLED them. My understanding is that you basically got a replacement 
> inverter and got stuffed for your time and travel.

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