Hi Kirk I thought about that, but you'll still need it on for the 5 minute clock. If Nick is right and no voltage is acceptable on output side, then I don't see how even with relays etc to get it to work?
Jay Peltz power > On May 28, 2014, at 7:32 AM, "Kirk Herander" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sounds like you need the load side of the AFCI to disconnect from the grid if > it trips. So you could have a power relay between grid and load side of the > AFCI, the relay coil energized from the line side of the AFCI, i.e. the > Enphase panel the AFCI is plugged into. So if it trips, power is lost on the > Enphase panel buss, and the load side relay opens, disconnecting the AFCI > from the grid. > So no grid power on load side of AFCI when open. Acceptable? > > Kirk Herander > VT Solar, LLC > Un-Common PV since 1991 > www.vermontsolarnow.com > dba Vermont Solar Engineering > NABCEPTM Inaugural Certificant > VT RE Incentive Program Partner > 802.863.1202 > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Nick Soleil > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:01 PM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 2014 NEC > > Hi Jay, > > It is not acceptable to wire the AFCI breaker with the utility power on the > output of the AFCI breaker. That does not meet the specifications for the > AFCI breakers. These breakers are sensitive to having voltage on their > output when the breaker is opened, which can damage the AFCI breakers. > > Currently, there are no AFCI circuit breakers that are listed for back-feed. > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:10 AM, jay peltz <[email protected]> wrote: > HI Will, > > You can do this. > > Take a standard breaker panel, install a Arc fault and run the wiring from > the enphase like it is the grid: ie into the main lugs. > Then this will go out through the breaker in the correct fashion, and onto > the main panel. > > jay > > peltz power > > PS as to the code, they want it this way > > > On May 20, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Will White wrote: > > Wrenches, > > Is anyone else having problems with inspectors and the 2014 NEC? In Mass > we’re having all kinds of issues with inspectors requiring/allowing an array > of different things for 690.12 rapid shut down ranging from roof top > disconnects, disconnects on the side of a house 20’ up, disconnects in > attics, or only disconnects that can be activated on the ground. It varies > between inspectors. > > We’re also having problems with one inspector requiring arc fault breakers on > Enphase even though there are no UL listed arc fault breakers that can be > back fed or he wants us to run the trunk cable in a raceway. > > It’s getting very difficult to install in Mass. > > Thanks, > Will > > Will White > Operations Manager - New England > RGS Energy > 64 Main St. |Montpelier, VT 05602 > tel 802.223.7804 | mobile 802.234.3167 | fax 802.223.8980 > RGSEnergy.com | [email protected] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > > -- > Cordially, > Nick Soleil > Field Applications Engineer > Enphase Energy > Mobile: (707) 321-2937 > > MyEnlighten is Coming. 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