HI Dan,

I would respectfully disagree that hydrometers are always accurate.

However  both can be easily tested with distilled water, should be 1.0

Jay

Peltz Power


On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Dan Fink wrote:

> Brian;
> That was to be my next response to Mac after he checked the refractometer 
> against the the old fashioned float. A customer saying "My grapnpappy said ya 
> gotta add acid, not water, and ya better not put them batteries on concrete 
> floors, all the power drains out......" ---it could happen
> Hopefully that's not the case, but in any case it's probably fixable. I don't 
> like the SG readings "all over the place" part. Sounds to me like the 
> refractometer got damaged.....and such damage would not neccessarily be 
> visible.
> 
> The float will always be true, and if ya drop it, the glass breaks. ;-)
> 
> Dan Fink
> Buckville Energy
> Otherpower
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>  
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Brian Teitelbaum <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Mac,
> 
>  
> Sounds to me that “someone” (ahem…) added some sulfuric acid to the cells 
> instead of plain distilled water.
> 
>  
> Either that or there is some sort of contamination in there that is raising 
> the density or “weight” of the fluid beyond just what the proper amount of 
> acid would do. “Specific gravity” is just a measurement of how heavy the 
> fluid is compared to plain water (specific gravity of 1.00). Sulfuric acid is 
> heavier than water, so when mixed will increase the density and raise the 
> weight of the fluid. Temperature effects the measurement too of course.
> 
>  
> If it turns out that acid was added, you can balance them out by removing 
> some of the electrolyte from the high cells and replacing it with distilled 
> water. It would be a process of trial and error to get them all the same. 
> Remove a little, add some water, equalize again, measure S.P. and repeat as 
> needed.
> 
>  
> Leaving the electrolyte too strong will shorten the battery life, although 
> maybe not enough to go through this ritual.
> 
>  
> Brian Teitelbaum
> 
> AEE Solar
> 
>  
>  
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Mac Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:55 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] High specific gravity
> 
>  
> Hello wrenches,
> 
>  
> I just went on a service call for a new client.  He had a bank of 4 year old 
> Interstate L16HCL batteries, 2 strings of 8, 48V system, 840Ahr.  We went 
> through the batteries and got specific gravity on all of the cells 
> post-equalization.  I was a bit surprised to see some very high numbers ie 
> over 1.32 for the specific gravities (higher than my refractometer goes).  
> The specific gravities were all over the place, but I haven't seen numbers 
> this high.  I don't have a great explanation.  He has a stacked 3648 VFX 
> Outback system, and the set-points were 58.8V Absorb for 2 hours, and 62V 
> Equalize for 2 hours.  He has a decent amount of solar (about 3400W) and a 
> 1000W wind generator.
> 
>  
> Any ideas why the specific gravity is so high on some cells?  Also, is there 
> anything wrong with having SG this high, post-equalization?  For this very 
> standard battery, what settings do you go with (Bulk, Absorb, Float, Eq, and 
> times for Abs and Equalization).
> 
>  
> Thanks in advance
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> --
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>  
>  
> Mac Lewis
> 
> "Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates
> 
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