William,

This is one reason I choose to avoid the "black box" approach to Li-ion 
batteries for our customers. There are several companies offering enclosed 
battery/controls like the OES. Their approach does not match well to the 
off-grid and mobile markets that I serve. 

Since most LFP batteries can handle 10C for up to 30 seconds (Winston LFP can 
surge to 20C!) and 2C-3C continuous discharge, it makes sense to me to design a 
protection system that can't utilize that capability. Our LFMP battery has an 
external CPU that I can program. We also use external high current relays for 
the protective circuits so the full load of the inverter can be put to use.

With a LFP battery bank of 48 volts and 400AH, somewhat small for off grid, the 
battery can operate continuously at 1200 amps or about 60kW output and surge to 
4000 amps/600kW. This obviously is way beyond the demand capability of the 
inverter(s). A quick look at the SI6048 data sheet shows maximum AC current is 
11kW for 3 seconds.

I am glad you noticed the extremely low voltage sag under load. This feature 
means lower current which should translate to longer life for inverters. It 
also means starting loads that you can’t with a similar sized lead acid 
battery. A 1C load typically has only 0.2 volt sag. For 48 volt systems, this 
means maintaining 51.2 volts throughout the full battery use. In fact, a 1C 
load will still only have 0.2 volt drop until about 90% discharged. Simply 
amazing.

Larry Crutcher


On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:15 PM, William Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

Larry:
 
…...The internal battery management system will allow them to disconnect under 
surge loads, just when you need your batteries to stay connected.  I will be 
conversing with the manufacturer to learn more about them.
 
William
 
 
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