Wrenches,
A longtime off grid friend of mine, with whom both I and Positive Energy have collaborated on difficult installations over the years, just purchased a 24V 230AH, 120 lb. LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) battery bank that is locally manufactured in Albuquerque. It's still too small and too expensive to run his entire home, so he has devised a battery switching system and is keeping his older FLAs in operation while he tests these and affords more strings. So far he's quite pleased with the performance, but there's not yet a track record for his set.

So I want to pass on this low-key manufacturer: Chuck McCune, McCune Industries, http://www.mccunesolarworks.com, (866) 622-8630. I believe that a legal Non-Disclosure Agreement is necessary to get the real info.

Contact me off list if you'd like to speak with my friend with the new set. I believe that he has set up as a regional dealer.
Allan

Allan Sindelar
al...@sindelarsolar.com
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
505 780-2738 cell

 

On 1/22/2016 9:26 AM, August Goers wrote:

I’m chiming in a bit late on this one.

 

Solaredge is compatible with SunPower. See the P400:

 

http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/powerbox/module-add-on

 

Solarege has been very popular in the Bay Area among SunPower and non-SunPower dealers.

 

I’ve attended a Tesla Powerwall training and the product is coming but it will probably be a slow and limited rollout (just my gut based on what I saw). The 400 volt battery output in particular will be the most revolutionary part of the product in my opinion. The Storedge product is their 1st gen battery product (I believe) so only time will tell how it works:

 

http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/products/storedge

 

I’m not convinced that any of the other lithium products are ready for prime time. They are expensive and I don’t personally want to spend the time or money to experiment with them at this point. That said, we recently commissioned our first dual Schneider XW+ system with AGMs and besides a few hiccups, it looks like a very customizable and clean package. I agree that storage is the future and certainly the reduced size and increased cycling ability of lithiums make them very appealing.

 

Cheers,

 

August

Luminalt

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Peter Parrish
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:07 AM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Cc: peter.parr...@solargnosis.com
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall Batteries

 

I have a residential client who wants a grid tied PV system with battery backup. The client wants everything to be top of the line: Sunpower modules. Tesla Powerwall batteries.

 

Unfortunately, I have been spending time recently researching "smart energy storage" for commercial applications focusing on peak demand shaving. These are 480 V 3-phase systems with 30 kW inverters and 48+ kWh Lithium technology batteries. I think I am beginning to understand the performance trade-offs and how these systems can complement PV to reduce demand charges as well as usage charges.

 

My problem, is that I have not spent as much time researching the newer residential GTBB offerings. I have studied the Juicebox offering – Schneider XW5548 plus NMC Lithium batteries -- but that’s about it. I don’t know the default vendor for the NMC batteries and if not Powerwall, could Powerwall be a replacement?

 

Otherwise, does anyone know how to access the Powerwall offerings?  Also has anyone had success getting a rebate in CA through the SGIP/AES program? I know to qualify for SGIP one needs to demonstrate load shifting as opposed to (or in addition to BB).   

 

There seems to be an offering from Solaredge (Storedge), but it is not clear their optimizers work with the 96 cell Sunpower X21-345, for example.

 

I am convinced that smart storage will become more important over time, and I would like to use this customer to “get smart”, and prepare for future business of this sort.

 

Any practical knowledge would be greatly appreciated. I am happy to exchange information on commercial demand management offerings.

 

-          Peter

 

Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D.

President, SolarGnosis

1107 Fair Oaks Ave., Ste. 351

South Pasadena, CA 91030

(323) 839-6108

NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional #031806-26

peter.parr...@solargnosis.com

 



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