August,

To be sure, there is a fragility in using LFP batteries if the integrator does 
not understand the pitfalls….and there are many. In November a lithium battery 
and solar “dealer” emailed me for help. He had damaged an $8000 battery bank 
and wanted to know how to get it working again. After I told him a few things 
to NOT do, I then offered my expertise for a $250 consulting fee. No response.  
I could tell of other cases where the unlearned have ruined their DIY 
installation or people have bought a LI-ion battery from dealers that won’t 
provide support. The stories are too many. 

I’ve been on the bleeding edge for 2 years now and I’m still discovering 
mistakes I made in the early application of our battery. Fortunately I am able 
to make the changes to hardware and software to keep the battery safe from 
humans. Lead is SO much more forgiving than Li-ion when it is not done right. 

We are up to 4-5 installations per month plus out the door sale of about 5 
systems per month. I receive email inquiries daily about our LFMP batteries. I 
have high hopes for products from the likes of Tesla. As I have said in the 
past, Lithium battery technology IS the future for RE storage…lead, your years 
are numbered. 

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems

On Jan 22, 2016, at 5:35 PM, August Goers <[email protected]> wrote:

Larry,
 
To get back to your previous response to me – I’m fully onboard with the 
benefits of lithium batteries. For now, they seem like the clear successor to 
lead acid technology. However, I’m still concerned about the ability of these 
smaller “integrators” to assemble cells and electronics together and make a 
robust package. There may very well be good ones out there, I just don’t know. 
Tesla’s product is still brand new and who knows how that is going to go.  
 
Best,
 
August
 
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Starlight 
Solar Power Systems
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 2:46 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePO4; WAS Availability of Powerwall Batteries
 
Hi Allan,
 
I would like to challenge the use of the term "locally manufactured". Mccune 
Solar Works does not manufacture lithium batteries. They purchase battery cells 
from China and package other third party components like EMS and relays to make 
a lithium battery  system. Very similar to what we do except our LFMP battery 
package EMS and CPU is designed by the manufacturer exclusively for GBS 
batteries. Perhaps a better term would be LFP battery dealer or integrator.
 
Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems
 
 
On Jan 22, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Allan Sindelar <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 
Wrenches,
A longtime off grid friend of mine, with whom both I and Positive Energy have 
collaborated on difficult installations over the years, just purchased a 24V 
230AH, 120 lb. LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) battery bank that is locally 
manufactured in Albuquerque. It's still too small and too expensive to run his 
entire home, so he has devised a battery switching system and is keeping his 
older FLAs in operation while he tests these and affords more strings. So far 
he's quite pleased with the performance, but there's not yet a track record for 
his set.

So I want to pass on this low-key manufacturer: Chuck McCune, McCune 
Industries, http://www.mccunesolarworks.com <http://www.mccunesolarworks.com/>, 
(866) 622-8630. I believe that a legal Non-Disclosure Agreement is necessary to 
get the real info.

Contact me off list if you'd like to speak with my friend with the new set. I 
believe that he has set up as a regional dealer. 
Allan

Allan Sindelar
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
505 780-2738 cell

 


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