I've gone through the hazardous materials transportation training this year and 
have received a certification for transporting our LFP based AC Batteries.  
Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR-49) applies to the transport of 
Lithium-Ion batteries by road and highway shippers and IATA regulations apply 
to shipments by air.


My understanding is that generally speaking, a company that is delivering 
batteries as part of their regular business do not need any specific 
certification, but should be trained on safe transportation procedures.  If you 
are a driver that is delivering the batteries for a shipping company, then you 
must be more familiar with the labeling and packaging requirements and training 
is required.


CFR-49, Part 172, Subpart H states that if you are a Hazmat employee, you 
should be trained to properly transport hazardous materials.  The employer is 
ultimately responsible for verifying that the employee is capable of safely 
transporting these materials, but no specific certification is required.



Cordially,

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From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> on behalf of Roy 
Butler <r...@four-winds-energy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:36 AM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Transport

In the early 90s and for 2 years, I drove for an expedited freight
company. I had my radmat, hazmat and secret service endorsements.
We had to know when to placard when under a hazmat load, where and when
we could and could not travel, safe haven locations, etc.

It's the RQ amount of the hazardous substance that dictates the
procedure. The RQ tables can be found here:
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/staticfiles/PHMSA/DownloadableFiles/Files/172_101_appa.pdf

When I started my RE company 21 years ago, the first thing I did was
look into the potential issue of transporting batteries.
The RQ amount for sulfuric acid or sodium hydroxide is 1000
pounds.....that's not battery weight, it's the electrolyte weight. And
that's a LOT of battery!

Of course, Lithium is likely a different story so all I can suggest is
research it. So, as others have stated, proper securing of the load,
obeying traffic laws, etc. is sufficient.

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On 5/24/2017 7:40 AM, Dana wrote:
> If you ask the folks that regulate our lives with lots of rule to save us 
> from ourselves, of course you must abide by the rules that vary state to 
> state. I have hauled batteries very openly, well secured, at or below the 
> speed limit for 29 years on a specially constructed 3 ton capacity trailer 
> with an overhead I-beam similar to a propane tank trailer. I have hauled 
> state to state from WA - SoCal - CO to ID & have never had a state or local 
> patrol question what I am doing. I do not think it is a common enough site to 
> arise interest. I have noticed the placarding on my delivery haulers and they 
> do not even alter their placards.
> If you ask I am sure there are regulations.........
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
> Behalf Of Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:54 AM
> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Transport
>
> No problems here in the land of Fruits and Nuts. Breadbasket of the world and 
> plenty of regulations :)
>
> Now that you have brought this up maybe it will happen?  Soligent has been 
> great for my deliveries. I often use a local battery dealer near the owner in 
> their state or country. That way the owner gets a local shop and I do not 
> have to worry about returns.
>
> I just did a system down to Guatemala and put it all in the small shipping 
> container. Mostly pretested and ready to go once they get it out of customs...
>
> Most all of my work is extreme rural and I rarely get near a big city.
> Hope this helps!
>
> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> "we go where powerlines don't"
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>
>> HI All;
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had run into to trouble or special
>> requirements or regulations when hauling new or dead lead acid
>> batteries to and from job sites.  Do we need to be DOT approved/
>> registered?  This seems like a special case, since regular shipping
>> companies do not deliver to these remote areas.
>>
>> The regulations etc are amazingly daunting.  In the past, I've
>> considered it a case of a contractor transporting building materials
>> to the job site. We're not a carrier, that delivers packages for others for
>> a living.   We have rented a truck with a DOT# when we need something
>> over the 10,000 lb gross vehicle limit, like a 1 ton truck.  I'm
>> hoping that would be adequate.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your advice,
>>
>> --
>> R. Ray Walters
>> Chief Technical Officer, RemoteSolar.com BS Mech Engineering, 1988
>> Former NABCEP Certified, 2004-2016 Licensed Master ELectrician,
>> Colorado
>> 303 505-8760
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