Thanks Mac and all,

I agree that putting the PV in a panel supported by the genset is not 
desirable. These are genset retrofits where the customers are hiring generator 
companies. I'm looking to avoid issues before they happen. Fortunately all 
customers (so far) are looking into or have purchased Generac which according 
to Mac has a Smart Management Module (SMM) option/accessory which may be the 
easiest solution. If the x-fer panels have a tap on the line side for the PV 
that would be best solution. I looked at one install today of a 400A Generac 
X-fer panel and it did not have line side tap.


Most generator companies have no clue about how solar works and so we're doing 
some educating (or at least attempting) and research of our own.

Thanks for all of your input!


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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Adding generators to PV systems

Hi Wayne,

As Tump suggested, getting the solar out of the load center served by the 
generator is a great way to go.  You can also do a relay that opens the solar 
circuit in the event the generator is operating.

Another option that I've used is Generac's Smart Management Module (SMM).  
These are designed to be load management relays and shed when frequency is 
dipping under load.  However they can also be used to lock out loads during 
generator operation.  I haven't used them for non-Generac generators but I 
suspect they would work fine.  They don't require any communication, the logic 
is based on the waveform getting sent to the load so they can be situated far 
away from the transfer switch and generator.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 3:44 AM, Tump <t...@swnl.net<mailto:t...@swnl.net>> 
wrote:
2 suggestions; the first is installing the GT inverter output on the utility 
side of the T switch
( Manu’s recommended spot)
. The second is have the generator tech set the frequency a bit lower then 59.5 
Hz. (57-58 Hz.) which is usually the lower spot where the GT inverters will 
latch on and begin to output. Make sure that this setting is noted on the 
generator so the next tech will leave it at this setting.
On Jan 11, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Wayne Irwin 
<pureenergyso...@hotmail.com<mailto:pureenergyso...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hello All,

We have several customers adding generators to their homes on which we have 
previously installed PV systems.
Historically most generators didn't produce a clean enough 60Hz sinewave to get 
the inverters to feed back.
However, with the generator technology improving and the introduction of 
inverter generators, I'm concerned that if the inverters feed back to the 
generator it will smoke the stator.

I'm wondering if any of you have any experience/issues?  If so, what solutions 
or recommendations do you have?

Thanks,


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