Colleagues:


I believe that circulating currents in multi-string battery installations
are a major cause of premature failure of such a system.  I think it is
important to monitor these currents.  Most telling would be checking these
currents in an at-rest scenario.  It would be helpful to have a baseline at
install and then check periodically.



Measuring these currents with any type of DC clamp-on meter can be
inaccurate at best.  In a conversation with Steve Higgins at a recent trade
show I came up with this idea that may have some merit:  If an install has
more than one string of batteries, install an appropriately sized shunt in
the negative lead of each string.  At any later date you can apply any
decent voltmeter with a millivolt scale and check for battery string
imbalance with some degree of accuracy.  Shunts are cheap and readily
available and if you avoid the brand that Outback uses in the Radian GSLC
cabinets, they are relatively rugged.



We will be trying this in any future install with multiple strings,
although we avoid this if at all possible.



William Miller



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*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] *On
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*Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 6:24 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Electrolyte Dilution vs Voltage



Mac,

  I was about to ditto Ray with his more common than I would like scenario
of battery death when I saw your mention of the 2nd string not connected.
It is always nice to see

a solution that is simple and should have been considered, but wasn't. The
assumption with battery issues usually is that they are actually hooked
up!  I often thought that it would be worth the money to supply a cheap
AC/DC clamp meter with every installation so that a phone consultation
could quickly determine if the strings were unbalanced and what might be
the reason.  Bad cells and bad connection  will usually show up in a
current check and then a quick voltage check of each battery with a load on
the system will show the culprit if a bad cell and corrosion present might
find the bad connection.  I use Interstate L16's most of the time and find
that the life is typically 6 years.  I used to call them a 7 to 10 year
battery but kept racheting back the claim until I now call them a 5 to 7
year battery with more if properly maintained.  I have seen 10 years but it
is rare.



John Blittersdorf
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