I too have a few Sunfrosts that are still with happy customers. We just had too many failures to justify the high cost overall. On the super efficient fridge topic:  I use the Backwoods Solar deep freeze conversion kit, which gets equally amazing energy numbers for about $500 total.  It just uses a standard, off the shelf chest style deep freeze, with a thermostat that operates it at 40 deg F.  If anything goes wrong, nothing on the freezer is altered, so warranty and local service are still available.

https://www.backwoodssolar.com/products/appliances/refrigerators-freezers/external-thermostat


Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 9/18/19 1:55 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:

ahem... i need to correct this with my personal experience.

perhaps this is an exception, but my 24 year old sunfrost RF-12 is still going strong, 100% problem free...

and it gets better efficiency than advertised:
it uses 390 watt hours/ day = 142 kWh/year

while solar pv is less expensive than it used to be it is still made with hydrocarbon powered mining and manufacturing.

call me "old school", but solar powering waste is not green.

todd



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:24pm, "Ray" <r...@solarray.com> said:

I second Jerry's comments.  Back in the 90s, we sold Sunfrost DC fridges, DC fans, CFLs, DC Pumps, etc.  Just tons of trouble for very little benefit.  Local fridge techs wouldn't touch them, and frankly they weren't as efficient as advertised.  The closer off grid clients can be to normal, the better.  That means normal wiring, normal appliances, etc.  Then you aren't on the hook for all these other items.  I hate to say it, but they just are not as well built or thought out, as main stream appliances, and the customer (after many bitter experiences) will eventually get normal equipment.

One other thing: plan on adding a LVD with a big contactor if you do have DC equipment or you'll ruin the batteries with this little detour down the "road less traveled"....

Ray Walters Remote Solar 303 505-8760

On 9/18/19 9:40 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote:

    Wrenches
    I have been in the renewable industry for a very many years and l
    dont quite  understand why someone would spend way to much on a
    refrigerator or washer or even range when they have their own
    issues. I have always suggested that my customers to buy a name
    brand machine,  efficiency always a factor of course.  Then invest
    in more batteries, modules, inverter etc. instead. In the long
    game it's a better investment with fewer headaches. Granted in
    some cases a propane refrigerator might be better but this is very
    seldom. But that's just me.
    Jerry

    On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 7:13 AM Drake
    <drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org
    <mailto:drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>> wrote:

        Hello Wrenches,

        For years, is seemed like the best off grid washing machine
        was the Staber. I've read of complaints about cheap plastic
        parts breaking. The price tag on this machine is very high for
        something that isn't mechanically solid.

        Are there any good options for an affordable, low power, low
        water usage, resilient, repairable machine with a minimum of
        electronics on the market?

        Thanks,

        Drake

        Drake Chamberlin
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        CO License 3773
        NABCEP Certified Solar PV
        740-448-7328
        /http://athens-electric.com/
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