True, but batteries that require service have their own working space
requirements. I am referring specifically to batteries that are not
service.

I would have no problem working safely on a panelboard above Powerwalls
stacked 3 deep, but I recognize that it is a violation nonetheless. I like
the idea of building out the wall.



On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 1:28 AM Ray <[email protected]> wrote:

> This isn't just a Li+ issue, this has been a problem going all the way
> back to the 90s.  Basically many AHJs don't catch it, but its still a
> violation.  We either keep the battery cabinet shallow, or we put the
> battery cabinet to the side.   Just use some common sense, if you are
> having to lean awkwardly over or around something to get to the breakers,
> its probably a violation.
>
> Ray Walters
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> On 1/31/21 5:55 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:
>
> I'm reading that the working space must be down to the floor/grade with
> the exception of other equipment extending up to 6 inches deeper than the
> enclosure for which the working space applies.
>
> For example, technically you can't put a 32 inch deep base cabinet and
> countertop below a load center. I see it all the time, but inspectors
> around here in some jurisdictions will not allow it.
>
> I seriously doubt I would be flagged for a 24 inch deep battery enclosure
> below a 12 inch deep inverter with integrated disconnects, but by the book
> it seems like a violation.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:38 PM Jerry Shafer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>    l dont know that this NEC code applies in the way you are reading or
>> understanding it, I do see where foreign components are restricted with in
>> the space. We have systems with two or three outback radians above
>> blueplanet batteries and have not seen an issue. The BPE's are in an
>> enclosed cabinet fire approved and protected from shock, putting batteries
>> further away will create space issues. Since all of these components are
>> required for the "system" to operate they are necessary.
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 12:28 PM Jason Szumlanski <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm seeing a lot of pictures of LiPO battery systems and people are
>>> mounting equipment above them like load centers, inverters with
>>> disconnects, and other serviceable enclosures. Some of these battery
>>> systems are 24 inches deep or more. This seems to violate NEC 110.26
>>> requirements for the other serviceable equipment, but the pictures are
>>> proudly displayed as models of success. Even slender Tesla Powerwalls stick
>>> out significantly when stacked 2 or 3 deep and would be more than 6 inches
>>> deeper than a standard load center. Sure, the battery cabinets make great
>>> places to rest tools while working, but does anyone else see this as
>>> problematic?
>>>
>>> Jason Szumlanski
>>> Florida Solar Design Group
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