I think this highlights my point. Zero export is not "really" zero export
in this case and the use of a third-party energy meter to provide net
consumption data would surely not qualify the inverter as a listed device
for this purpose. While I'm sure most utilities will accept an inverter
designed to provide so-called zero export, it's entirely reasonable to
expect that some utilities will take an absolute stance.



On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 12:28 PM Corey Shalanski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Greg,
>
> As Will mentioned, this mode of operation is doable with SolarEdge, but it
> will require some additional hardware—specifically, you will need an energy
> meter as well as CTs for each power phase.
>
> Here is some documentation to get you started:
> - Export Limitation brochure
> <https://d1c96hlcey6qkb.cloudfront.net/de1543db-d336-4a89-9a35-dfb08ac7a6c6/316c59969efe4bcd8d98ed461864612c?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%2A%3DUTF-8%27%27Export%2520Limitation_Residential%2520flyer_ROW.20200727133751107.pdf&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&Expires=1617321600&Signature=LYeT1QuE0gbaDBl11Khs82CHcxAQ6AwH3ShnOUPy4Mn9wZU2yfp58AV2u5CnXw-Msd39gaIVaeVhLY553LgmA-3OjoLBgnr7D6srKYZXRwxXlN8y24OVc~28jmheitiU~IFgcsxJNyfEFmdueDCzcH1kgN-bXCXD-FDwO5Fr6weysBqw3~6cK0~1A00WUTuwBuQoAbtzWYXhXbrtNf1kYPAYHXI-T10Bc8uvXcapCmUagkNJSjuJW7OSCPUEKtZdV0x1gkKaaocJU3TaQViIKY6Bwrw0qIqo4uBoNyT-rF5Mu-So3Pf4d8fDterfQa2OKHbqIX6RJIzOIBVmRT1-JQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAI33AGAEAYCXFBDTA>
> - Energy Meter webpage
> <https://www.solaredge.com/us/products/metering-and-sensors/solaredge-residential-electricity-meter>
> - Export Limitation application note
> <https://d1c96hlcey6qkb.cloudfront.net/de1543db-d336-4a89-9a35-dfb08ac7a6c6/f0f8ba991b974f37bba1112cce845f09?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%2A%3DUTF-8%27%27Export%2520Limitation%2520v2.5.20201123105127969.pdf&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&Expires=1617321600&Signature=Zo3EK-tZ~Zp60hmFWhY-i-6NrpRbAjGXRop5bHutXj8M9EYJgZHIBz2Abtv0H1Rutq9cYv0wkHPwygMMOHgs1kTd-RvDxcrjJ-WVISIStN~HrK6JGKoD3x6pBoNZ7at9PtTn0j4mpiyJ-BtzRRZZNKT1dufsmLxErAa8NUseb89WtmAjaGQIF2ffX6J2QmxcISz4kBzsMS8kZw4Vr-fpDshzgOznzElEInr8CLB5lYmT5Emu2Et~JL47fjLVMCEE3TupX4WTQaJpoU9tr2gQU8YZC6m~dJtbhLouGpkOYb5WiO-BiQbLvjFNk-2uyn3I-ZjLlPjc87xox4krsMs6sQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAI33AGAEAYCXFBDTA>
>
> You'll note that SolarEdge calls this feature "export limitation" as
> opposed to simply "zero export." That is because the user can limit the
> amount of power (e.g., 1 kW, 2 kW, etc.) that is exported - or none* at all.
> *Related to Jason's point, please note the following information included
> in the application note (page 24):
> " “Zero export” term can be misleading at times as one may think that
> export to the grid
> is always avoided. In fact, “zero export” mode is expected to export some
> energy to the
> grid in some edge cases. The solar systems strives to produce as much
> power as
> possible for the site consumption, however, load change events constantly
> occur. The
> zero export-regulated system tries to match production-power and
> load-consumption-power at all times. During the transition periods, some
> export power is inevitable."
>
> --
> Corey Shalanski
> Jah Light Solar
> Portland, Jamaica
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 5:24 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Wrenches, I've got a small system using SolarEdge inverter (4 kW) that
>> is supposed to go in to a small town that does not allow selling power
>> to the grid.  That may change but that is how it stands now.  The
>> customer wants to use the power that is generated but can not sell or
>> even give excess power away.  Do any of you have any experience setting
>> up a grid tie no battery system so that it can not sell to the grid
>> under any circumstances?  Just wondering before I dig any deeper if
>> there's an obvious solution I'm missing. Thanks,
>>
>> Greg Egan
>> Remote Power Inc.
>>
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