Make sure the old modules are resistant to Potential Induced Degradation
(PID). The new transformerless inverters can induce PID on non PID
resistant modules. This issue surfaced with the installation of
inverters that did not solidly ground either conductor.
Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric LLC
Ohio Electrical Contractor's License 44810
CO Master Electrician's License 4526
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
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On 2021-05-18 21:22, Jerry Shafer wrote:
Wrenches
I would also be surprised if the old 2500 would last very long.
Better off with a SB5.0-41 and if you need RSD then add that in also.
On Tue, May 18, 2021, 12:15 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <[email protected]> wrote:
Probably if it is old it does not have these recent Certifications and UL requirements. Just gave these to my local AHJ.
IEEE 1547, UL 1741-SA, Rule 21, Rule 14H, PREPA, and CSA 107.1
Product Certification History Project Date Description 80049402 2020-09-18
Update to report 70194014 to meet grid support function according to CA Rule 21
for 120Vac output configuration. 80036281 2020-03-15 Update report 70194014 to
include UL1741 CRD SA17/18 UL 1741(California Rule 21 Phase 3 Function 2 and
Function 3) for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 80020062 2019-10-30 Update report
70194014 to include firmware upgrade for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 70220117
2019-03-27 Update Report 70194014 to include minor firmware update for Model XW
Pro 6848 NA. 70212688 2019-03-04 Update Report 70194014 to Include Volt-Watt
and revised Freq-Watt grid tie requirements as per UL1741 Supplement SA for
Model XW Pro 6848 NA (FGA 865-6848-21).
Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
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On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:07:08 -0400, "Glenn Burt" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Kirk,
Can you elaborate on which UL standards the older SB units don't comply with?
-Glenn
From: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kirk
Herander, VSE
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 6:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U
These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL standards regardless. If its
a new installation, a savvy utility / AHJ will catch this.
Kirk Herander / [email protected]
Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
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On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM, William Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
Jay:
Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for 208 three phase and it turned
out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open delta). I had to return the
inverters to the factory to be converted and I had to rewire all of the
arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in the field.
William Miller
Miller Solar
17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
805-438-5600
www.millersolar.com [2]
CA Lic. 773985
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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:44 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U
Does anyone know if you can convert a
SMA SB2500U ( old red inverter) from 208 to 240vac?
Without using a boost transformer.
Thx
Jay
Peltz power.
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