I had the exact same thing happen(even down to the crowbar) with the only set of full river 400 6's I've ever installed. I personally lean away from agm though we've had pretty good luck with the Outback and Northstar PLR platform over the year..
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025, 9:39 AM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches < [email protected]> wrote: > The only thermal runaway event I've ever seen, was with AGM in an over > insulated battery box. Got so hot that the cases fused to each other, and > we had to pry the batteries apart with a crow bar. She wants ZERO risk of > fire? She needs to live in a concrete bunker with no electricity at all. > Every electrical connection, every outlet, every appliance has a risk of > fire. Period. > > Ray Walters > Remote Solar > On 1/12/2025 9:39 AM, Tyrone Houck via RE-wrenches wrote: > > I hate to be the one to say it but LFP has arguably less fire risk than > agm. A short circuit in an agm could be disastrous and AGM is not > necessarily any safer or less prone to thermal runaway events than modern > LFP. I'd recommend a cobalt free LFP like homegrid, simpliphi, or midnite > if it were me.. > > > > > On Sat, Jan 11, 2025, 3:38 PM jay via RE-wrenches < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I was going to try and steer her towards lithium but she wants zero, >> absolutely zero chance of fire, so no lithium. >> >> great batteries though >> >> jay >> >> >> >> On Jan 11, 2025, at 4:35 PM, MD Electric & Solar via RE-wrenches < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> 30KWH of LFP from discover energy, fits in one enclosure, around $14000.00 >> Enclosure is indoor/outdoor rated. >> >> https://discoverenergysys.com/products/lithium-batteries/aes-rackmount >> https://discoverenergysys.com/products/accessories/slimline-enclosure >> >> On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 3:31 PM jay via RE-wrenches < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> HI Willam >>> >>> Thanks for the input. >>> I didn’t know that trojan was sold, and from what you say, yeah scratch >>> them off. >>> >>> It’s currently at 30kwh. And thats probably a good size. >>> As always, cost and time is a factor. >>> >>> I’ll check the others out. >>> >>> jay >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Jan 11, 2025, at 4:17 PM, William Miller <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Jay: >>> > >>> > What AH or Kwh level are you looking for? >>> > >>> > Trojan was acquired by another company a few years ago and quality had >>> gone >>> > downhill. >>> > >>> > Rolls is very sensitive to high temperatures. They will deny a >>> warranty >>> > claim if all of your parameters are not exactly right. >>> > >>> > For larger AH systems: >>> > >>> > I like the Full River DC-400-2. You might be able to do a one string >>> > installation. >>> > >>> > Unigy II is a great system. Very robust. Hard to deliver but I can >>> offer >>> > tips. Lots of AH size options. >>> > >>> > William >>> > >>> > Miller Solar >>> > 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 >>> > 805-438-5600 >>> > www.millersolar.com >>> > CA Lic. 773985 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> > Behalf Of jay via RE-wrenches >>> > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:48 PM >>> > To: RE-wrenches >>> > Cc: jay >>> > Subject: [RE-wrenches] AGM battery recommendations >>> > >>> > Hi All >>> > >>> > I have a customer what is set on AGM. >>> > >>> > It been so long since I’ve bought any, wondering if there are any >>> > recommendations? >>> > >>> > The ones I’m looking at: >>> > >>> > Rolls S6-460AGM-RE >>> > >>> > Full river DC-400-6 >>> > >>> > Trojan SAES 06 375 6V >>> > >>> > sun Xtender brand. >>> > >>> > What’s interesting is the trojan has about 3000 cycles vs the others at >>> > around 1250 cycles to 50%. >>> > Im wondering if that is a marketing idea or if its real. >>> > >>> > thanks in advance >>> > >>> > jay >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> > >>> > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>> > >>> > List Address: [email protected] >>> > >>> > Change listserver email address & settings: >>> > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> > >>> > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try >>> the >>> > other: >>> > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> > >>> > List rules & etiquette: >>> > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> > >>> > Check out or update participant bios: >>> > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List Address: [email protected] >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try >>> the other: >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Michael D Nelson >> MD Electric & Solar Inc. >> Office: 707-412-3181 >> Cell: 707-684-0064 >> www.mdelectricsolar.com >> www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: [email protected] >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: [email protected] >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change listserver email address & > settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other:https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette:http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios:http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > >
_______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: [email protected] Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
