As to the issue of wire size. Isn’t really that the OEM's want a specific maximum resistance of the wire between the multiple inverters and batteries for that matter?
I am reminded of a project I did 1.5 yrs ago with 10 Fortress Evault max and 3 inverters. Of course fortress wanted equal wire lengths between the batteries to the combiner. Given the number of them, and the layout it was going to take about $3000+ more in wire and where to put all that wire. I thought about it, and came to the realization that they really just wanted equal VD between them. I did the calculations based on max load/charge split between the batteries and ran the numbers by their senior tech/engineering staff, they agreed. Basically in short, closest battery had 1/0, then they worked up to 4/0 at the end. All the VD between them was about .5% which they approved. This saved me and the client a ton of money and a huge hassle over where to actually store all that wire. This issue with inverter cables needing to be the same length is the same thing. They don’t have to be the same length they have to have a similar VD between them. What is that number supposed to be? We are engineers or play at being engineers, tell us what we need to know. Do we need to buy a resistance tester to confirm the wires meet a specific standard? All wires are not the same. What if Im using two different brands/ratings of 4/0 because I ran out or my supplier ran out. How am I supposed to know? When I look at the old Trace manual, yes I have them still of the SW 4024, they at least had X wire size for Y distance and then different sizes for longer distances. Midnight just has 4/0. Luxpower has numerous combinations of wire sizes per distance. But I would like to know what am I supposed to be aiming for? .5% VD at rated power? Or is it peak power or? Or some actual resistance measurement or? or what is it? If I know what its supposed to be then I can mix and match wire sizes to get the correct % VD. Don’t just tell me 4/0. jay > On Oct 30, 2025, at 7:39 AM, Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jay, what they were telling me is that with multiple inverters, the 4/0 > cables to each inverter need to be the same length. We did not specifically > discuss whether positive needed to be the same length as the negative cables. > I would think it is more important that the positive cables are all the same > length and that the negative cables are all the same length. > > Cheers, > Dave > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 9:36 AM Jay via RE-wrenches > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Thx dave. >> >> To be clear MP is saying for a single inverter the positive and negative 4/0 >> to the inverter need to be the same length? >> >> Jay >> >>> On Oct 30, 2025, at 7:19 AM, Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Here is an installation tips document that I got from Midnite at some >>> point. The battery cables needing to be the same length from the battery >>> combining busbar to the inverters may not be in there, but tech support is >>> very clear about that point. Otherwise, there is some good stuff in here. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Dave >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 10:20 PM Tyrone Houck via RE-wrenches >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Jay >>>> If you call MNP Technical Support they should be able to email you a link >>>> or get you pdf breakdowns of the trainings with best practice >>>> recommendations too >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025, 7:07 PM William Bryce via RE-wrenches >>>> <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Jay >>>>> >>>>> It is not in the manual, but it is addressed in the training videos. >>>>> Hopefully it will get in the manual on the next revision. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 8:16 PM Jay via RE-wrenches >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> Thx william >>>>>> >>>>>> I looked through the install manual and didn’t see the requirements for >>>>>> equal length cables. >>>>>> >>>>>> Where would I find this? Did I miss it or is it in a white paper or? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thx >>>>>> Jay >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2025, at 11:27 AM, William Bryce via RE-wrenches >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The install principles are for both on and off grid. When on grid you >>>>>>> have increased issues with current circles, and imbalanced voltage >>>>>>> issues from bad wiring practices. >>>>>>> On off grid it is current issues, when the installer goes cheap with >>>>>>> smaller wire, AU wire and states "the Load is only XX Kw" so I do not >>>>>>> need a #2AWG wire on the output". >>>>>>> We know that is never true, and the customer will always increase loads >>>>>>> or underestimate loads. The inverter also has a large surge capacity, >>>>>>> So the inverter will starve for Amps when needed on the DC side, and >>>>>>> have a high resistance on the AC side. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you follow the recommended wire sizes in the manual, the errors go >>>>>>> to almost zero, unless you have N to G bonds all over the place. That >>>>>>> is another issue altogether, that has been talked about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the end, AIO inverters are different from what us older guys are >>>>>>> used to. Before we could get away with all types of shortcuts when the >>>>>>> box was full of heavy copper and only made AC power. AIO's are really >>>>>>> complex, and the little things in the install matter. The New RULES are >>>>>>> making it even harder ESS, PCS, ECT... More rules, more code, more >>>>>>> issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 1:04 PM jay via RE-wrenches >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> HI William >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is for both on and off grid correct? >>>>>>>> jay >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2025, at 10:34 AM, William Bryce via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Dave >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The AC wires need to be the same size and try to have the same >>>>>>>>> length. This is important because the inverter when stacked "shares" >>>>>>>>> the power so you want to try to prevent any imbalance in voltage and >>>>>>>>> resistance issues, or circle issues. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In older stacked systems you have a master and a slave and when the >>>>>>>>> power demand increases then the slave would take the excess. On AIO's >>>>>>>>> the power is shared equally all the time (this is a good thing as you >>>>>>>>> don't get the flicker as the slave picks up). It is important that >>>>>>>>> the install takes into account the different way the power is used >>>>>>>>> and delivered. Have a clean install, with the correct sized >>>>>>>>> conductors as specified by the manufacturer, and try to keep the wire >>>>>>>>> run short and equal when connecting the inverter AC runs together. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 9:41 AM Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> William this is really good information, thanks for sharing the >>>>>>>>>> technical perspective. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have two sites with two of these inverters and both of them are >>>>>>>>>> exhibiting very similar behavior. On Friday, I was out at the other >>>>>>>>>> one to wrap up a few things. While I was out there I verified some >>>>>>>>>> of the things that Midnite tech support suggested like making sure >>>>>>>>>> that the AC wires to each inverter's grid in and cables are the same >>>>>>>>>> length and also from the battery bus bar to each inverter are the >>>>>>>>>> same length. This was actually a bit surprising to me, considering >>>>>>>>>> with lead acid it is more important to have the battery cables from >>>>>>>>>> the bus bar to the batteries be the exact same length and the cables >>>>>>>>>> to the inverters did not matter as much. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Based on what we were talking about last week, I removed the N-G >>>>>>>>>> bond in the disconnect for the solar, but I have not yet gone >>>>>>>>>> looking for other N-G connections in the way that Jason suggested. I >>>>>>>>>> have not gotten a CA-DC link overvoltage error, but I have still >>>>>>>>>> seen some of the symptoms. It is not as bad as the other site, but >>>>>>>>>> what I notice on the monitoring is that in the late afternoon/early >>>>>>>>>> evening one inverter shows an unreasonable amount of solar (with >>>>>>>>>> power going into the grid and into the battery), while the other >>>>>>>>>> inverter shows low solar (with a ton of power coming out of the >>>>>>>>>> battery going to the load and the grid), and the battery SOC drops >>>>>>>>>> very quickly down to the discharge end SOC (on grid) setting of 85%. >>>>>>>>>> Jason and William, do you know whether any faulty wiring with N-G >>>>>>>>>> connected in loads on the non-backed up side will affect the system >>>>>>>>>> the same way? Or is it mostly just important to check for any >>>>>>>>>> neutrals connected to ground on the backed up loads side? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jason, as to why a supply side connection - I was under the >>>>>>>>>> impression that a Power Control System just effectively limits the >>>>>>>>>> amount of power that can be sold to the grid. But on a standard 200A >>>>>>>>>> service, that limits you to about 7.7kw of sell back. I would not >>>>>>>>>> want to limit the system that much for a roughly 20kw system, even >>>>>>>>>> if more than the 7.7kw can go to powering loads and battery >>>>>>>>>> charging. In the Midnite monitoring, it is pretty easy to limit the >>>>>>>>>> grid sell back with the "maximum feed in grid power" in the Power >>>>>>>>>> Control settings. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2025 at 8:51 AM William Bryce via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> All >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Most modern all-in-one (AIO) inverters are designed around a >>>>>>>>>>> non-isolated high-voltage DC bus. This design is what allows >>>>>>>>>>> manufacturers to advertise higher output numbers — for example, >>>>>>>>>>> “15–18 kW” — while the inverter may only deliver 12 kW during >>>>>>>>>>> nighttime operation when PV isn’t contributing (it is also cheaper >>>>>>>>>>> to build). Without the shared non-isolated DC link, these >>>>>>>>>>> power-boosted daytime ratings wouldn’t be possible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A DC-bus overvoltage fault almost always points to one of two >>>>>>>>>>> issues: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Improper system design >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wiring and installation mistakes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Off-Grid Example >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A common DIY mistake is pairing a large solar array (because glass >>>>>>>>>>> is cheap) with a relatively small battery (not as cheap). >>>>>>>>>>> When the battery is full and a large load suddenly turns off, the >>>>>>>>>>> excess energy has nowhere to go. The inverter throttles back, but >>>>>>>>>>> the stored energy can still push the DC-bus voltage up rapidly. If >>>>>>>>>>> the inverter didn’t protect itself, the capacitors would be at risk >>>>>>>>>>> — so it shuts down with an overvoltage error. This is also common >>>>>>>>>>> when using a large retrofitted AC coupled array. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Grid-Tie Example >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In grid-connected systems, DC-bus overvoltage is typically caused >>>>>>>>>>> by wiring mistakes, some common examples are: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Multiple neutral-to-ground bonds >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Reversed hot/neutral at outlets >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A single inverter is usually more forgiving. However, stacked >>>>>>>>>>> inverters must share phase, neutral, and grounding relationships >>>>>>>>>>> precisely. Any mis-wiring can create circulating currents. That >>>>>>>>>>> circulating energy is not accounted for in the inverter’s internal >>>>>>>>>>> power calculations, so the DC-bus voltage rises unexpectedly — and >>>>>>>>>>> the inverter shuts down for protection. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A DC Link Overvoltage error is usually not an inverter defect — >>>>>>>>>>> it’s a system design or system wiring problem 99% of the time. >>>>>>>>>>> Ensuring proper neutral/ground bonding, correct polarity, adequate >>>>>>>>>>> battery capacity, and proper commissioning is critical to reliable >>>>>>>>>>> AIO operation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This behavior is not unique to the MN AIO — all AIO inverters using >>>>>>>>>>> a non-isolated DC-bus topology share the same fundamental >>>>>>>>>>> protection limitations. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Inverters are getting more complex to deal with the new rules and >>>>>>>>>>> utility requirements, this causes reliability issues as we move (or >>>>>>>>>>> pushed) to full integration with the grid. Because you know we all >>>>>>>>>>> want the utility to have full control over our systems! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 9:51 AM Jay via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> I had an issue with a EG4 inverter and tech support was an >>>>>>>>>>>> insistent that there was multiple ground neutral bonds in the >>>>>>>>>>>> system. Fully off grid system with no generator. >>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn’t the issue but it seems like these inverters are >>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive to it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is the inverter internally bonded, not that I’m aware of or what >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve measured. >>>>>>>>>>>> And so I can’t figure out what it’s measuring between N/G to have >>>>>>>>>>>> a potential issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe someone can explain? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jay >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2025, at 6:49 PM, Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all for your thoughts here. It seems that the general >>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus so far is that the N-G should be bonded in the solar >>>>>>>>>>>>> main disconnecting means when doing a supply side connection >>>>>>>>>>>>> (even if it is not technically a separate service). When talking >>>>>>>>>>>>> with Midnite Power, we made it very clear that we were talking >>>>>>>>>>>>> about a N-G bond in the inverter combiner / solar main >>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnect, and not the backed up loads panel. And being that NY >>>>>>>>>>>>> is still on 2017 code (only going to 2020 next year), with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> ambiguity in the code I am probably okay to undo the N-G >>>>>>>>>>>>> connection in the main solar disconnect. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case specifically, we are backing up only a small subset >>>>>>>>>>>>> of loads in the house. The reason for the two inverters is >>>>>>>>>>>>> because there is about 24kw of solar. There is also a manual >>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer switch to normally be able to power the loads off the >>>>>>>>>>>>> inverters, but to be able to switch to powering the loads off the >>>>>>>>>>>>> main panel in case of service needed on the inverters. The >>>>>>>>>>>>> neutrals in this system are all connected together, and I am not >>>>>>>>>>>>> sure if that could cause issues. It is probably difficult to >>>>>>>>>>>>> explain all the details in words, so I am copying part of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> three line diagram here. The second picture is the conductor and >>>>>>>>>>>>> conduit schedule. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, I get it that the error sounds like it is on the DC side >>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the words, but when I talked to Midnite about it they >>>>>>>>>>>>> were pretty clear about it being due to multiple N-G bonds and >>>>>>>>>>>>> they did not mention that it could have anything to do with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> DC side. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, that is a good idea as well to check the loads that got >>>>>>>>>>>>> moved over to see if there are any other inadvertent N-G bonds on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the premises. This also similar to what Midnite suggested, which >>>>>>>>>>>>> was to lift the N-G bond in the main panel and then see if they >>>>>>>>>>>>> are still bonded somewhere else. It seems like it can be a slow >>>>>>>>>>>>> process to track that down with power cut to the house, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>> might be what I have to try if removing the N-G bond in the solar >>>>>>>>>>>>> main disconnect does not help. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, my main questions to anyone who has an opinion here are two >>>>>>>>>>>>> fold: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you bond the N-G in general in the main solar disconnect >>>>>>>>>>>>> for a supply side connection? >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Specifically with the Midnite AIO inverters, has anyone else >>>>>>>>>>>>> had issues with this "CA-DC link Overvoltage error" due to having >>>>>>>>>>>>> a second N-G bond in the house? (one in the main service panel, >>>>>>>>>>>>> and one in the solar main disconnect if it is a supply side >>>>>>>>>>>>> connection). Or have you seen this error and found that it was >>>>>>>>>>>>> caused by something else? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 5:25 PM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. It is not a separate service. It is a "tap" of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing service (I use that term loosely here). The additional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> service disconnect for the supply side interconnection should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have L1, L2, and N connected ahead of the premises main >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnect with no EGC. There should be a N-G bonding jumper in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PV service disconnect. Then there should be no N-G bonds >>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstream of both the premises main disconnect and the PV >>>>>>>>>>>>>> service disconnect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, it's the same as two main disconnects running from a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meter enclosure. Each of the service disconnects has a N-G bond >>>>>>>>>>>>>> required. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some AHJs (the crazy ones) require an EGC between the enclosure >>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the supply side connection is made and the PV service >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnect. This creates a parallel fault path, and should not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be allowed, in my humble opinion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now it sounds like you might be doing a partial home backup. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue there is that sometimes the loads or enclosures you moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the backup load panel have inadvertent N-G bonds. Sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's as simple as someone who got creative and used a ground as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a neutral in a switch box. I say simple, but that can be hard to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> track down. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Midnite said to remove it from the inverter distribution >>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, they were probably talking about the protected loads >>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think more information is needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Szumlanski >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 11:03 AM Tyrone Houck via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My interpretation, and the way it was explained to me by both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Mayfield and Kyle Bolger(several years ago at this point, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> popular opinion may have changed since). Is that it is not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seperate service. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is however required to have a ground-neutral bond( though >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my opinion pointless and redundant as there is a bond in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enclosure where the tap is made). If it gives you any issue, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensure as close to equal potential to the grounding electrode >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as possible(and make sure your neutral is appropriately sized). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally don't see the point but it is an NEC requirement >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 6:08 AM Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For years I have understood that when doing a supply side >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection, you are supposed to bond the neutral to ground in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the solar service disconnect. I have a Midnite AIO system with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two inverters (set up as a supply side connection) that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently was getting a CA-DC link Overvoltage error. When >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to Midnite, their first response was to make sure that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there was only one N-G bond in the whole system. When I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned that the solar is a separate service and thus there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a N-G bond in both the main panel and the inverter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution panel, they said to remove it from the inverter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution panel. I want to make the system work right, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also am hesitant to do something against how I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understood the NEC to be for a long time. 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