Are any of these running mate3? Not 3s?
> On Jan 10, 2026, at 3:38 PM, Brett Stigile via RE-wrenches > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I just had an FM 60 reset to factory specs. This is on an old lead acid set > up so can't blame lithium. Not online. > > --- > Brett Stigile > Owner/Renewable Energy Electrician > 503-317-7950 > [email protected] > > Oregon Sun Wrangler LLC > CCB: 240661 > License: 66LRT > NABCEP PV Installation Professional > certification: PV 100414-008123 > >> On 2026-01-10 14:02, [email protected] wrote: >> Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..." >> When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the Subject: >> line to the exact original, and please edit out any extraneous lines from >> the quoted message. >> Today's Topics: >> 1. Outback Charge controllers resetting to default settings >> (Zeke Yewdall) >> 2. Re: Outback Charge controllers resetting to default settings >> (Tyrone Houck) >> 3. Re: Battery Sensor Light on VFX3648 (Chris Schaefer) >> 4. Re: Battery Sensor Light on VFX3648 (jay) >> 5. Re: Battery Sensor Light on VFX3648 (Jerry Shafer) >> 6. Re: Battery Sensor Light on VFX3648 (jay) >> 7. Re: Outback Charge controllers resetting to default settings >> (Nick Lucchese) >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 14:56:47 -0800 >> From: Zeke Yewdall <[email protected]> >> To: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> >> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback Charge controllers resetting to default >> settings >> Message-ID: >> <canc8fmr7gbe-bx_+6opojutcsf5qs3c1anenxvuzs+-iltp...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> Has anyone else had issues with outback charge controllers resetting to >> default settings? I just had a FM100 do this (and shut the whole system >> down because the default settings were too high of voltage for a 15 cell >> LFP, so the battery turned itself off for protection). The logs show that >> the values were set to 0 from the proper settings, then to the default >> settings from 0, on site. But no one was on site. I changed them back >> remotely via opticsRE, and it logged me as changing them back, as it should >> have. >> Occasionally in the past I've had similar things happen, and always kind of >> chalked it up to the customer perhaps messing with the system, but this >> time I know that no one was there to adjust it locally at the time that it >> says it was changed. >> I have another site this week that does not have opticsRE, that the FM100 >> may have reset to default settings as well. Same thing -- lithium >> batteries shutting off from overvoltage all of a sudden. I am still >> investigating that one. >> Zeke >> -- >> Zeke Yewdall >> PV Engineer >> NABCEP #031508-89 >> [email protected] >> 303-523-3592 >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260109/c5ccbce3/attachment-0001.htm> >> ------------------------------ >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 15:08:24 -0800 >> From: Tyrone Houck <[email protected]> >> To: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Charge controllers resetting to >> default settings >> Message-ID: >> <CAEqH54=dnxm-buzrijftd+zpnmkpe_haqy_7539ryxwcfdp...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> I have had that happen before on at least 3 different occasions. >> Specifically with the fm100. Totally random and couldn't come up with a >> logical explanation. I just reprogram and roll with it...always seemed odd >> though. >>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026, 2:58?PM Zeke Yewdall via RE-wrenches < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> Has anyone else had issues with outback charge controllers resetting to >>> default settings? I just had a FM100 do this (and shut the whole system >>> down because the default settings were too high of voltage for a 15 cell >>> LFP, so the battery turned itself off for protection). The logs show that >>> the values were set to 0 from the proper settings, then to the default >>> settings from 0, on site. But no one was on site. I changed them back >>> remotely via opticsRE, and it logged me as changing them back, as it should >>> have. >>> Occasionally in the past I've had similar things happen, and always kind >>> of chalked it up to the customer perhaps messing with the system, but this >>> time I know that no one was there to adjust it locally at the time that it >>> says it was changed. >>> I have another site this week that does not have opticsRE, that the FM100 >>> may have reset to default settings as well. Same thing -- lithium >>> batteries shutting off from overvoltage all of a sudden. I am still >>> investigating that one. >>> Zeke >>> -- >>> Zeke Yewdall >>> PV Engineer >>> NABCEP #031508-89 >>> [email protected] >>> 303-523-3592 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>> List Address: [email protected] >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> There are two list archives for searching. 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I don't normally deal with 24 volt inverters. I've got >> many dead VFX3648 units hanging out. My question is can I cannibalize a fan >> out of a 48 volt unit and put it in a 24 volt unit? Next, let's say the fan >> is ok and based on the readings above I should look into replacing the xfmr >> temp sensor. Again, can I take one out of a 48v inverter and use it on a >> 24v unit? Which board might be suspect as well that the xfmr temp sensor >> feeds its information too? >> Thanks, >> Christopher >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:23?PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> Wrenches, Jay, >>> Transformer temp sensors in the FX Fails, fans fail causing fet boards to >>> overheat, dirty filters cause high temps on all the intervals. When outback >>> was still running the parts department you always got temp senders with >>> fans, boards and a relocation procedure, yes you must put the sensor in a >>> new location. >>> FunTimes >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026, 3:26?PM Jay via RE-wrenches < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> I?ve replaced dozens of internal temp sensors over the years. >>>> I learned to also replace the fan at the same time. >>>> Or vice versa. >>>> Jay >>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 4:01?PM, Luke Christy via RE-wrenches < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> ?Drake, >>>> I agree with Ray, >>>> The message you?re seeing does not refer to the RTS that has been absent >>>> for years- it?s an issue with an internal sensor. >>>> I have seen intermittent warnings relating to internal sensors on VFX >>>> units that have self-resolved with a reboot, but if the warning is >>>> persistent then you?ll likely need to open the unit up and replace the >>>> sensor. >>>> Luke Christy >>>> Renewable energy consultant >>>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional?: >>>> Solar Gain Services, LLC >>>> PO Box 531 >>>> Monte Vista, CO 81144 >>>> 719.588.3044 >>>> [email protected] >>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 3:00?PM, Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> A couple of years back, a client changed from lead acid batteries to >>>> LiFeBlue, lithium batteries. At that time the temperature sensor was >>>> removed. >>>> The other day, a warning light started blinking. The warning turned out >>>> to be a bad temperature sensor. It is strange that this message showed up >>>> now, as the sensor has been gone for years. >>>> Is there any way to turn off the warning light? >>>> Thank you, >>>> Drake >>>> *Drake Chamberlin* >>>> *Athens Electric LLC* >>>> *Ohio Electrical Contractor?s License 44810* >>>> *NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional* >>>> -- >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>>> List Address: [email protected] >>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>> There are two list archives for searching. 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I don't normally deal with 24 volt inverters. I've got >>> many dead VFX3648 units hanging out. My question is can I cannibalize a fan >>> out of a 48 volt unit and put it in a 24 volt unit? Next, let's say the fan >>> is ok and based on the readings above I should look into replacing the xfmr >>> temp sensor. Again, can I take one out of a 48v inverter and use it on a >>> 24v unit? Which board might be suspect as well that the xfmr temp sensor >>> feeds its information too? >>> Thanks, >>> Christopher >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:23?PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Wrenches, Jay, >>>> Transformer temp sensors in the FX Fails, fans fail causing fet boards to >>>> overheat, dirty filters cause high temps on all the intervals. When >>>> outback was still running the parts department you always got temp senders >>>> with fans, boards and a relocation procedure, yes you must put the sensor >>>> in a new location. >>>> FunTimes >>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026, 3:26?PM Jay via RE-wrenches >>>> <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> I?ve replaced dozens of internal temp sensors over the years. >>>>> I learned to also replace the fan at the same time. >>>>> Or vice versa. >>>>> Jay >>>>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 4:01?PM, Luke Christy via RE-wrenches >>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> ?Drake, >>>>>> I agree with Ray, >>>>>> The message you?re seeing does not refer to the RTS that has been absent >>>>>> for years- it?s an issue with an internal sensor. >>>>>> I have seen intermittent warnings relating to internal sensors on VFX >>>>>> units that have self-resolved with a reboot, but if the warning is >>>>>> persistent then you?ll likely need to open the unit up and replace the >>>>>> sensor. >>>>>> Luke Christy >>>>>> Renewable energy consultant >>>>>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional?: >>>>>> Solar Gain Services, LLC >>>>>> PO Box 531 >>>>>> Monte Vista, CO 81144 >>>>>> 719.588.3044 >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 3:00?PM, Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> A couple of years back, a client changed from lead acid batteries to >>>>>>> LiFeBlue, lithium batteries. At that time the temperature sensor was >>>>>>> removed. >>>>>>> The other day, a warning light started blinking. The warning turned out >>>>>>> to be a bad temperature sensor. It is strange that this message showed >>>>>>> up now, as the sensor has been gone for years. >>>>>>> Is there any way to turn off the warning light? >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> Drake >>>>>>> Drake Chamberlin >>>>>>> Athens Electric LLC >>>>>>> Ohio Electrical Contractor?s License 44810 >>>>>>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>>>>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>>>>>> <http://re-wrenches.org/> >>>>>>> List Address: [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>>>>> There are two list archives for searching. 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When one doesn't work, try the >>> other: >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260109/b83d8129/attachment-0001.htm> >> ------------------------------ >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 15:56:22 -0800 >> From: Jerry Shafer <[email protected]> >> To: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Sensor Light on VFX3648 >> Message-ID: >> <CAMUFgmUx+5u1YRnzJY1p1HWrX0djdHwEZY+=bjlquemqohp...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> Wrenches. Jay >> As l recall all the fans are the same PN same with the sensors. Just >> relocate the temp sender to the new location as l recall it is on top of >> the xfmr. >> Fun times >>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026, 3:52?PM jay via RE-wrenches < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> HI Chris, >>> They are all 12v fans and universal between 12,24,48v units >>> jay >>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 4:35?PM, Chris Schaefer via RE-wrenches < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> While on the subject of VFX inverters in regards to the fan and internal >>> temp sensors, I've got a client with a circa 2010 VFX3624 that appears to >>> have a failed fan. I don't normally deal with 24 volt inverters. I've got >>> many dead VFX3648 units hanging out. My question is can I cannibalize a fan >>> out of a 48 volt unit and put it in a 24 volt unit? Next, let's say the fan >>> is ok and based on the readings above I should look into replacing the xfmr >>> temp sensor. Again, can I take one out of a 48v inverter and use it on a >>> 24v unit? Which board might be suspect as well that the xfmr temp sensor >>> feeds its information too? >>> Thanks, >>> Christopher >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:23?PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> Wrenches, Jay, >>>> Transformer temp sensors in the FX Fails, fans fail causing fet boards to >>>> overheat, dirty filters cause high temps on all the intervals. When outback >>>> was still running the parts department you always got temp senders with >>>> fans, boards and a relocation procedure, yes you must put the sensor in a >>>> new location. >>>> FunTimes >>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026, 3:26?PM Jay via RE-wrenches < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I?ve replaced dozens of internal temp sensors over the years. >>>>> I learned to also replace the fan at the same time. >>>>> Or vice versa. >>>>> Jay >>>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 4:01?PM, Luke Christy via RE-wrenches < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> ?Drake, >>>>> I agree with Ray, >>>>> The message you?re seeing does not refer to the RTS that has been absent >>>>> for years- it?s an issue with an internal sensor. >>>>> I have seen intermittent warnings relating to internal sensors on VFX >>>>> units that have self-resolved with a reboot, but if the warning is >>>>> persistent then you?ll likely need to open the unit up and replace the >>>>> sensor. >>>>> Luke Christy >>>>> Renewable energy consultant >>>>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional?: >>>>> Solar Gain Services, LLC >>>>> PO Box 531 >>>>> Monte Vista, CO 81144 >>>>> 719.588.3044 >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 3:00?PM, Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> A couple of years back, a client changed from lead acid batteries to >>>>> LiFeBlue, lithium batteries. At that time the temperature sensor was >>>>> removed. >>>>> The other day, a warning light started blinking. The warning turned out >>>>> to be a bad temperature sensor. It is strange that this message showed up >>>>> now, as the sensor has been gone for years. >>>>> Is there any way to turn off the warning light? >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Drake >>>>> *Drake Chamberlin* >>>>> *Athens Electric LLC* >>>>> *Ohio Electrical Contractor?s License 44810* >>>>> *NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional* >>>>> -- >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>>>> List Address: [email protected] >>>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>>> There are two list archives for searching. 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When one doesn't work, try the >>> other: >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260109/91128c59/attachment-0001.htm> >> ------------------------------ >> Message: 6 >> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 17:06:33 -0700 >> From: jay <[email protected]> >> To: Jerry Shafer <[email protected]> >> Cc: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Sensor Light on VFX3648 >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> It?s been a lot of years since replaced one, but from memory, the early FX >> had the temp sensor plugged into the board. >> Later models, I don?t know when it started had the temp sensor attached to >> the transformer with tape but it still attaches to the same plug on the >> board. >> The replacement temp sensors attach to the transformer and include the high >> temp tape to attach to the transformer. >> it takes all of about 2 minutes to do, once you have the top taken off the >> inverter. >> Since the cost of the site visit and time to remove the inverter to replace >> the $20 temp sensor is high, i also replace the fan as its also inexpensive >> but the service call is expensive for the client >> I presume that Zonna has the temp sensors and maybe fans again. >> Jay >>>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 4:56?PM, Jerry Shafer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Wrenches. Jay >>> As l recall all the fans are the same PN same with the sensors. Just >>> relocate the temp sender to the new location as l recall it is on top of >>> the xfmr. >>> Fun times >>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026, 3:52?PM jay via RE-wrenches >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> HI Chris, >>>> They are all 12v fans and universal between 12,24,48v units >>>> jay >>>>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 4:35?PM, Chris Schaefer via RE-wrenches >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> While on the subject of VFX inverters in regards to the fan and internal >>>>> temp sensors, I've got a client with a circa 2010 VFX3624 that appears to >>>>> have a failed fan. I don't normally deal with 24 volt inverters. I've got >>>>> many dead VFX3648 units hanging out. My question is can I cannibalize a >>>>> fan out of a 48 volt unit and put it in a 24 volt unit? Next, let's say >>>>> the fan is ok and based on the readings above I should look into >>>>> replacing the xfmr temp sensor. Again, can I take one out of a 48v >>>>> inverter and use it on a 24v unit? Which board might be suspect as well >>>>> that the xfmr temp sensor feeds its information too? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Christopher >>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:23?PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> Wrenches, Jay, >>>>>> Transformer temp sensors in the FX Fails, fans fail causing fet boards >>>>>> to overheat, dirty filters cause high temps on all the intervals. When >>>>>> outback was still running the parts department you always got temp >>>>>> senders with fans, boards and a relocation procedure, yes you must put >>>>>> the sensor in a new location. >>>>>> FunTimes >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026, 3:26?PM Jay via RE-wrenches >>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> I?ve replaced dozens of internal temp sensors over the years. >>>>>>> I learned to also replace the fan at the same time. >>>>>>> Or vice versa. >>>>>>> Jay >>>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 4:01?PM, Luke Christy via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> ?Drake, >>>>>>>> I agree with Ray, >>>>>>>> The message you?re seeing does not refer to the RTS that has been >>>>>>>> absent for years- it?s an issue with an internal sensor. >>>>>>>> I have seen intermittent warnings relating to internal sensors on VFX >>>>>>>> units that have self-resolved with a reboot, but if the warning is >>>>>>>> persistent then you?ll likely need to open the unit up and replace the >>>>>>>> sensor. >>>>>>>> Luke Christy >>>>>>>> Renewable energy consultant >>>>>>>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional?: >>>>>>>> Solar Gain Services, LLC >>>>>>>> PO Box 531 >>>>>>>> Monte Vista, CO 81144 >>>>>>>> 719.588.3044 >>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 3:00?PM, Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> A couple of years back, a client changed from lead acid batteries to >>>>>>>>> LiFeBlue, lithium batteries. At that time the temperature sensor was >>>>>>>>> removed. >>>>>>>>> The other day, a warning light started blinking. The warning turned >>>>>>>>> out to be a bad temperature sensor. It is strange that this message >>>>>>>>> showed up now, as the sensor has been gone for years. >>>>>>>>> Is there any way to turn off the warning light? >>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>> Drake >>>>>>>>> Drake Chamberlin >>>>>>>>> Athens Electric LLC >>>>>>>>> Ohio Electrical Contractor?s License 44810 >>>>>>>>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>>>>>>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>>>>>>>> <http://re-wrenches.org/> >>>>>>>>> List Address: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>>>>>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>>>>>>> There are two list archives for searching. 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At least 8 times now. The first >> couple times I blamed myself and thought I had made the rookie default >> settings mistake I see on other's sites but now I know better. Only the >> FM100. Just got back from a site that resulted in the client's Radian >> shutting down due to battery volt sense faults from it. First time it has >> caused shutdowns though. Looks like her Blue Ions had been sitting at 57.6 >> for months now. Unfortunately she has Hughesnet that almost never works >> with Opticsre otherwise I would have caught it. Extremely frustrating, I've >> easily eaten enough service calls and equipment failures for Outback over >> the years that I could have paid off a Toyota Yaris. No exaggeration. >> Nick >>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 2:58?PM Zeke Yewdall via RE-wrenches < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> Has anyone else had issues with outback charge controllers resetting to >>> default settings? I just had a FM100 do this (and shut the whole system >>> down because the default settings were too high of voltage for a 15 cell >>> LFP, so the battery turned itself off for protection). The logs show that >>> the values were set to 0 from the proper settings, then to the default >>> settings from 0, on site. But no one was on site. I changed them back >>> remotely via opticsRE, and it logged me as changing them back, as it should >>> have. >>> Occasionally in the past I've had similar things happen, and always kind >>> of chalked it up to the customer perhaps messing with the system, but this >>> time I know that no one was there to adjust it locally at the time that it >>> says it was changed. >>> I have another site this week that does not have opticsRE, that the FM100 >>> may have reset to default settings as well. Same thing -- lithium >>> batteries shutting off from overvoltage all of a sudden. I am still >>> investigating that one. >>> Zeke >>> -- >>> Zeke Yewdall >>> PV Engineer >>> NABCEP #031508-89 >>> [email protected] >>> 303-523-3592 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>> List Address: [email protected] >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> There are two list archives for searching. 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