I do think some of the existing examples could be useful (possbily as a starting poing). Sean does have a MG/CS/Reactor example (maybe a fusebox too?). Brian Kotek also has a MG/CS/Reactor and a M2/CS/Reactor sample app.
It is possible to take the 'model' part from these apps and make calls to the service layer without the MG or M2 framework, in the way that Flex would do. On 9/14/06, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
thanks Dan... I needed to hear that :) marc ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Reactor for CF] CF7/fusebox5/reactor/flex2 Marc, Remember this, you are not the only one with the question, rather the only one brave enough to ask it. ;) dw On 9/14/06, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sean's examples are all very good, but this thread is really discussing the different "layers" of frameworks and in which areas they are used, when a real-world example comes along, such as the one I have described. There are many more factors at play here than just example code for reactor, example code for fusebox, example code for x, y, or z. What is needed is a demonstration of how all of these frameworks truly work together within one application where there could be Flex OR standard HTML (or anything else that could be imagined),while the "middle" frameworks (reactor, coldspring) remain in the mix. I'm still not much closer to an answer, so I'm starting some code that we can all discuss, at a "5 year old level" (to coin a phrase used elsewhere :)... with more in-depth narrative and perhaps a description of a request lifecycle for each type of interface, html or flex, while sharing the model. and with the 'service layer' (and any other recommended layers) demonstrated. > > Oh, and I want the moon, too. Give me the moon. {giant wink} > > I hate being a newbie. > > > ________________________________ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Krebs > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Reactor for CF] CF7/fusebox5/reactor/flex2 > > > > > > To expand on that for those not aware of it, Sean's examples can be found at http://www.corfield.org/blog/index.cfm, check out Frameworks Sample Code and Persistence Sample Code in the Software pod on the top right. There are many examples and the readme files explain what's what. Reactor sample code is in the Persistence download. > > Scott > > ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Payne > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Reactor for CF] CF7/fusebox5/reactor/flex2 > > > Actually, this would be the first effort of its type. Good code samples for stepping stones for various frameworks would probably be a very sought after site. > > You could have the creators of each framework, except for Flex, contribute the solutions on an as per need basis. > > Sean C. does this, but I am not sure how many frameworks he provides samples for. > > Teddy > > > On 9/14/06, Marc < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That's a nice pattern diagram, and I will in fact be digging in hard to figure it out. But in the meantime, it would be helpful to actually build the simplest of apps - one that can take a Person, for example, and allow a Person object to be CRUD'ed using BOTH flex and fusebox apps, with reactor as the persistence for both, with little or no redundancy in the code. > > > > While this diagram is helpful for the more advanced users, I think at this point a simpler diagram with actual code examples in the technology relevant to CF and Reactor would be more helpful to newer users. A "starter" course, so to speak. It's nice to know this diagram is out there, and is acting as the basis for the goals of our CF-based frameworks! > > > > > > ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Payne > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:00 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Reactor for CF] CF7/fusebox5/reactor/flex2 > > > > > > > > Best practices? http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/index.html > > > > The image map provides a road map to a J2EE application which most frameworks are trying to achieve through CF. > > > > Teddy > > > > > > On 9/14/06, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Thanks Tom, Peter, et al: > > > > > > In the interests of my own education as well as for the benefit of the > > > community, I'd like to put together a sample set of applications that > > > demonstrate what you are describing. Architecture-level 'best practices' in > > > this area are hard to come by on the 'net, let alone actual sample code. > > > > > > If it's okay with everyone, I'd like to post code into this thread, and get > > > feedback from everyone. Since this is very much an integration of Reactor > > > with two other frameworks (let alone coldSpring, which I'm afraid to even > > > start with), it seems relevant to have this discussion here. > > > > > > Would anyone object? Would anyone like to contribute sample code? Should I > > > shut up and go away? ;) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:57 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [Reactor for CF] CF7/fusebox5/reactor/flex2 > > > > > > > > On Thursday 14 September 2006 16:14, Marc wrote: > > > > > Does anyone else here have a similar situation, or > > > > has worked on a > > > > > similar situaiton in the past? > > > > > > > > What you are aiming to build is a 'service layer'. > > > > Which I really must draw and blog about more, but: > > > > > > > > Service layer > > > > | > > > > V > > > > Business methods ('managers') > > > > | > > > > V > > > > Data service Layer (Reactor) > > > > > > > > Our services pull managers out of an application-wide > > > > ColdSpring factory. > > > > Managers may call on other managers which are injected > > > > by ColdSpring, along with a Reactor Factory. > > > > > > > > Services are independent of each other. 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