On Mar 14, 2006, at 2:18 PM, Charles Yeomans wrote:

Right; I've tried this trick as well. Basically, the only way to do it is via declares. But, as you know, menu-tweaking via declares was broken in Rb 5 as a side-effect of changes to the menu implementation. It is possible that more recent changes may have unbroken this, but I have not attempted to work it out.

OK ... so at least this confirms it's not just me
I may try some declares as well to see if things are better

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