Thanks for looking out for RB, but this is a known bug. Feel free to search
the bug list or the mail list archives .And I don't think they deserve
finger pointing for these decisions (file format, IDE lock-in, saving bug).
Perhaps a spanking, or a really lousy fiscal quarter instead.

  -k.

On 3/22/06, stephane richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hmm...sure it's not a hardrive (or defrag issue)?  I haven't heard of
> anyone
> not being able to save their files here so far...you're the first that I
> know of....statistically, your system might be the cause.
>
> No, i'm not working for RB hehe....but I would assume that file
> management,
> in any IDE (whether it saves text or binary files) would be the FIRST
> thing
> being tested as it's the most important feature is to be able to "safely"
> save files no matter what format is used.  it's worked here on both my
> systems quite flawlessly too.
>
> Just making sure all avenues are covered before finger pointing points to
> RB
> :-).
>
> Stephane Richard
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Mankoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "REALbasic NUG" <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:28 AM
> Subject: A pox on thee
>
>
> Damn you REALbasic. Damn you. Never before has a programming language
> given
> me nightmares, but last night I had a GroundHogDay (Bill Murray) type
> dream.
> Why? Because RB cannot even save a freakin' file, so I have to code the
> same
> thing over and over and over again.
>
>
> I put a pox on thee. As a matter of fact, as soon as I'm done with this
> email, I'm going to try to find a green cube and I'm going to stick pins
> in
> it. This company shouldn't die as they have potential, but they need to
> understand the pain they put some programmers through. Worst of all, there
> is no good reason for this pain.
>
>
> Why, or why, oh WHY was this decision made? Which engineer or manager
> decided to a) use a proprietary binary file format and b) force users to
> use
> their editor? You don't need to find out who made the decision, but you
> need
> to look at the process that allowed such a stupid, evil, short sighted,
> limiting, and dumb decision to get made, and fix the process.
>
> 99.9% of all other programming languages store code in a plain file. Why
> did
> you try to improve on this? 99% of other IDE software allows you to use
> another editor, you are not forced to their IDE. Why do you insist on
> locking me in? A text editor with a save function is one of the most basic
> programs after Hello World. It is taught in hundreds of learn-to-program
> books and CS 101 courses. Yet you cannot even provide me with a text
> editor
> that can reliably save text. Why not?!?!? It is very nice of you to
> provide
> an IDE. Thank you. But why have you locked me into it, when it cannot
> perform the most simple of tasks: editing and saving text.
>
>
> The RB language is nice, but not worth the hassle. Due to the IDE I'm
> evaluating Qt, where I can use whatever IDE I like: emacs, BBedit,
> Eclipse,
> *OR* the Qt editor. If Qt takes 20% longer to develop the same project it
> will be worth it to me, as the RB IDE retards me by 50%.
>
>
>   -k.
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