Hi,

after one of the most exciting new things being the container controls in the last year and being disappointed only by doing some very simplistic tests, I gave me and RS a "grace" period - now I'm in need of doing REALwork.

After getting more issues everyday I got up early this morning and start crawling my mailing archieve, add me to several bugs, just to recognized time obviously doesn't change much in this case.

Just as an example I pick the following mail, but there are so much other, that I could pick, too.


Message: 3
Subject: Re: ContainerControl.enabled does not exist?
From: Terry Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:33:40 -0700


Only a few personal observations and opinions.

1. The ContainerControl (ne:Embedded Window) is a "Work In Progress"

Yes, and it's still and while there was (RBSQLServer, ....) and are (UB, Cocoa, ...) sooooooooo many more important things to do I'm afraid this state will not change for a long time


3. You won't get much out of RS until they solve more of the bugs.

There are so much discussions and so less real answers and even more less things that had been corrected.


4. What appears possible sometimes is impossible later (i.e. after a
save).

The first hours I thought it was me making mistakes, or the Intel in my MacBook, or ...

What is the really most annoying thing, you fix everything, you save your project, you open your project again, restart it in debugger and several other places are broken, you fix everything, you save your project, you open your project again, restart it in debugger and several other places are broken, you fix everything, you save your project, you open your project again, restart it in debugger and several other places are broken, ...


5. It can't make up it's mind whether it's a window or a control.
(re: Enabled Quasi-Property)

The bad thing about you can't get it by logic, so I added a new method in my SuperWindow-class "RegisterContainer" and register them by code in the start up of the window to get a list of all used containers, for all other custom-"controls" this is of course not necessary.

And IMHO THIS is the source of a real annoying other problem, when layering some canvases and ContainerControls, then the left- and top- properties becomes completely useless, or does someone things that "left:-260" is meanfull for a container-control being fully visible?

And loosing some of the parents in every second restart is not really helpful.


I'm sure time will sort it out eventually.

I'm not in the business for nearly 20 years and I'm planning to work for 30 more years, so yes I think I will the issues fixed.


In the meantime, I have been successful in creating a
ContainerControl on a TabPanel (in code) that appears to work. More
tests are still required.

In the meantime I created a xhtml-directed "presentation"-canvas where a lot of the dynamic things happen and for editing a separated window is open, works fast and pretty nice, so far no issues.



ciao

Thorsten Hohage
--
that-Office.de Softwaredesign - Hamburg,Germany


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