On Sep 26, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Mike Woodworth wrote:


On Sep 26, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Joseph Nastasi wrote:


On Sep 26, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Norman Palardy wrote:

But I'd take stable, relatively bug free runtimes first

A-friggin'-men!

while i agree with this on principle... and far more now than i did before the rapid release cycle... most of the bugs i've found can with work be worked around. no matter what, i hit a point where i can't speed up my rb app any more, short of jumping into RB.

i bet there are as many apps not getting written in RB because of speed as there are because of bugs. certainly when you factor in people not using RB because of a perception of it's slowness. I think it's going to take a lot of work to change this perception... it's something I fight against tooth and nail.

I don't really care if others are not using it because they think it's slow. I care that people who use it are having projects and products releases delayed because of RB framework instability. And that's really this big issue. I can deal with almost any oddity in the IDE, but bugs in the RB libraries, and the time it takes to get around them, negates some of the benefits of using RB.

My issues:

1. Bugs get introduced in an final release that, even in the rapid release system, take months to fix. 2. I don't mind a workaround for a bug when the IDE changes every year, but to put a workaround in a product, only to have to revert back to your original design when the bug gets fixed in the next release, is real productivity hit. I had this happen to me for big issues several times over the years.
3. There have been times where it's cost me $$$ in direct lost sales.
4. Some bugs cannot be worked around at all and some with a lot of rewrite.

I recently went through my development logs for A-OK! The WIngs of Mercury, which are very detailed, and found many references to bugs that really screwed me bad. There is quite a bit of profanity in those particular entries. :-)

Next year it's been 10 years on this platform for me. I have very mixed feelings about that.
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