On 27/9/06 22:39, "Thom McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This would become a security risk. By doing that, you allow an
> application to modify itself which is a very bad thing.
incorrect . The system would not allow any modification to anything other
than the preferences directory relevant to the user. And in any case the
user wouldn't modify these directly it would be the application. Its all
down to the intelligence of the OS.
> And what
> about upgrading the application? By deleting the bundle which
> contained your preferences, you'd start clean on a new version.
> That'd get on my nerves real quick.
That's showing a lack of imagination. Remember I am talking about the system
hiding and abstracting whats really going on from the user. To upgrade an
application one would simply drag and drop the new app bundle into the
Application folder. Remember that its the OS GUI that controls exactly what
happens when one drags and drops.
At this point the system would sense this and take account of the fact that
an older version of the bundle already exists. It would then prompt to ask
if the original preferences are to be kept. All this is doable.
The system would be aware of
>
> I think the current system is very elegant.
Really? You think the typical non-computer aware user likes to trawl around
the library directory simply to figure out where the preferences or dylibs
are. It certainly Is not elegant that after dragging an unwanted app into
the bin there is still piles of rubbish left in folders all over the place.
> I don't see all these
> crazy files spread everywhere because it's rare an application puts
> things in strange places anyway.
You may not- but I certainly do. Maybe you are simply just unaware of what
your apps are spewing out.
Windows has Uninsallers and an uninstall facility simply to handle this
fact.
> They are usually just single files
> which you can drag-and-drop install and you're done - exactly as you
> want, right?
wrong. Many of my apps, consumer ones and pro-audio based ones, squirt
files all over the place. Sure I understand why, and am capable of deleting
some of them after a laborious trawl thru the directories. Call that
elegant???. But the typical user should not have to do all this.
> If you really want to kill all remnants of an
> application, get AppZapper.
So OS/X is so elegant it requires a 3rd pty utility to clear out the
rubbish ?? Lovely. How user friendly. Well done Steve Jobs, brilliant
ingenuity there.
> But when I delete an application, I tend
> to want my files to be left alone.
>
Maybe you do. I generally don't. And in any case I would like a choice in
that decision. The standard default for dragging an app icon to the bin
should be for the system to prompt the user as to whether he wants all the
settings removed.
> --
> Thom McGrath, <http://www.thezaz.com/>
> "You realize you've created God in your own image when God hates all
> the same people you do."
Nice quote :)
>
> On Sep 27, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Daniel Stenning wrote:
>
>> The OS could handle permissions - if intelligent enough. If a user has
>> rights to use an app the OS should ensure that he gets his /her own
>> set of
>> preferences automatically.
>
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