Cascade if u are referring to the Aussie lager is inded a good drop. ( if
English real ale isnt available ) . New Zealands Stein lager is also very
nice indeed. 

But lagers and beers tend to taste pretty much the same - subtle
differences. The great thing ( imho) with british ale is that they really do
vary enourmously in taste.  The ones I mention are very distinct and
different flavours.

Oh and to put the myth to rest,  english ales arent served warm, theyre
served cool - just not to the point of condensation drops.

The thing about most beers ( lagers etc ) is that they HAVE to be seved ice
cold, because - unlike fine english ales, they just taste plain awful if
served at anything less than -10 degrees ;)


When I lived in LA many years ago I remember enjoying Henry Weinhardts. Im
sure the beer thing has improved a lot since then ( 1986! ).   I also
remember going to see a mate in San Francisco who took me to an english
style pub somewehere near the sea that did serve a respectable pass at a
real ale.


On 7/3/07 20:44, "Bryan Lund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bart Pietercil wrote:
>>> Anyone who has sampled the delights of Fullers ESB, Timothy Taylors,
>>> Deuchars, Loddon and all the varied brews of UK will confirm the UK
>>> rools as
>> 
>> Maybe the UK (d)rools but Belgian beer certainly rules
> 
> Sounds like you both need to spend more time in the Pacific Northwest of
> the US.  The various micro- and home-brews around Portland and Seattle
> are some of the finest in the world.  (This is, after all, where the
> Cascade Hop comes from... and you can't beat a good Cascade Hop.  Except
> maybe Ringwood.  The Australians and their Ringwood make me a happy boy.
>   In fact I use both in my most recent brew.)
> 
> None of this "beer made by monks who don't drink beer" stuff.  :)
> 
> BOOM.
> 
> -Bryan
> 
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