On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Ralf Haifisch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So, just to get me on track..
>
> You use the telepathy framework and have/intend to put it in the
> client (as a channel manager, using the d-lib based client library).
> Maybe even using the addressbook-features ?  so one could choose to
> have "just" inworld contacts or more ?
>
> You now intent to use that for voice only and keep the text (IM) to
> the linden standard (opensim) and video is not (yet) in que.
>
> What type of server do you use at the moment , and have you had a look
> at decentraliced ones ?
>

We would in theory use any/all features telepathy exports. One of the
reasons to consider it is that its a high-level framework that gives
us lots of features for just a little code.

Part of the plan is to prototype the IM/voice work using a stripped
down 2D application that would look something like skype, but also
offer reX integration like server administration plugins.

>From there we would integrate the same code into the reX-NG viewer
relatively easily.

I do not imagine that we will follow Linden's IM standard at first.
Perhaps that's a module a more interested party could implement.

Haven't had a closer look at server infrastructure to support scalable
voice, etc., because we are not really in the hosting game, and the
point of choosing an existing protocol is so that we don't have to
dictate what is used to back the system on the server side.

That said, we'd be better off providing a sample architecture so that
people using reX don't have to hire/become telecom experts to get
their systems up.

> What I can offer:
> - knowledge about implementing network based services in a enterprise
> environment, incl. Voip.
> - knowledge about routing, security - up to compliance level as an
> auditor
>  - the will to bring 3D web to RL business, what is quite related to
> being compliant to business rules
> - will to test-run setups and test whether they would pass usual
> requirements based on stuff like firewalls etc
>
>
> since i would love to see opensim/realxtend/sl-compatible stuff spread
> into RL use , a voice able to work under RL enviroments is of big
> interest for me.. personaly
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf

Sounds very good. Its hard for me to put you to some task. It'd be
better for me to be transparent about what we are doing, and you can
choose how you want to contribute with your own unique ideas.

Cheers,

>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 6:43 pm, Ryan McDougall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ralf Haifisch <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi there,
>>
>> > i´m quite new to this mailing list. I did play with the nice
>> > underwater demo from December, as well as the prior demo – localy and
>> > on a server.
>>
>> > I am quite active in opensim/osgrid and my interested on voice
>> > features did lead me the way to this newsgroup.
>>
>> > In RL I have worked with some VOIP products, mostly from a solution
>> > architect view, looking to solve customers demands.
>>
>> > I was quite disappointed by the technological way lindens did choose,
>> > because it was unacceptable for enterprise administrators, from
>> > security or firewall needs.  You find some thoughts about RL in this
>> > posting:  http://opensim.cybertechnews.org/?p=23
>>
>> > By that time, meeting/education was the main RL Usecase I could
>> > identify and while i´m not realy a voice fan, this Usecase without
>> > voice did not make any sense.
>>
>> > I heard about the XMPP direction.
>>
>> > Now I would be realy interested in testing the realX implementation,
>> > e.g. in conjunction with some enterprise firewalls.
>> > I think about setting up a a virtualized server farm for this – so far
>> > no trouble.
>>
>> > But would be the best start?
>> > Is the code somewhere to check out and compile ?
>> > Any Links/Tutorials I should follow ?
>>
>> > Cheers
>> > Ralf
>>
>> We don't have any real code at this point. We are 
>> investigatinghttp://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/
>>
>> It provides a framework that allows us on concentrating on our
>> application, IM, voice, and video, without getting caught up in the
>> details of infrastructure.
>>
>> However, the server-end problem is a real one, and something we should
>> have a solution for those who don't aren't architects themselves.
>>
>> Perhaps we can start by talking about how to enable decentralized
>> XMPP-based IM/voice network?
>>
>> Cheers,- Hide quoted text -
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> >
>

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