On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM,
[email protected]<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for this Antti, I really want this to be a constructive
> dialogue hard to maintain threads in this kind of group and you tend
> to have an instant meeting of mindsin a google group as opposed to
> people picking up past topics and adding new dynamics to them. I
> understand the bots issue (and also the spam and just petty vandalism)
> and gardening that needs to go on in these boards to weed them  to be
> useful (although this place is not immune to spam or hatemail
> either!).
>
> I'm sure if you asked a trusted few here would be willing to police
> the exisiting board,
>
> I think that a place for newbie’s would be useful as well, you
> probably will get a lot of repeat questions about driver/ board
> compatibilities, basic steps for servers and 32/64 bit issues coming
> up and having a “first base” site might be useful.  (I might even be
> interested in running that!). but if you can’t attract the likes
> Pqerk, emerald and Loti here you’re losing a major backbone of
> potential support and the groundswell needed to push Realxtend to the
> next level!
>
> Moni
>

Speaking as an engineer working on open source, there is simply too
input to reasonably sort through in a day and still get work
accomplished.

I get hundreds of emails per day -- and that's after I've unsubscribed
to all but the most central. I delete half without reading, skim the
other half, and maybe seriously ponder only a couple. I have IM
contacts, live IRC, IRC logs from when I was sleeping, bug lists, RSS
feeds, research papers, hard-cover books, and code to read through --
and that's before even thinking of any form of writing. I don't think
I dare add meetings in there. Adding a forum as a requirement on my
time is a non-starter.

If you want a web forum, and don't like reading google groups web
interface, then I suggest hosting a 3rd part forum on maxping for
example. Antti might be able to find someone here to stop working on
reX-NG long enough to reinstall and configure a forum solution, but it
can't then be expected to be visited by developers. It'd be purely for
community by community.

I appreciate that realXtend appears to have lost momentum while we
rewrite, but really it was do that, or slowly lose momentum due to a
terminally ill code-base. Realistically speaking, it will take a while
before reX gets good again, and by that time the community will have
lost some members. We accept this as a necessary evil required to have
shot at accomplishing the things we set out to accomplish. (And from a
certain point of view, now is the best time possible to refocus, as
the change in economy has put us in bottom of the hype-cycle, and
there is not much else to do but bear down and wait for the tide to
rise.)

I don't think the problem with the community is lack of a forum --
it's lack of cool software to play with, and that will only be fixed
when developers are working on making software. An open source
community is about give-and-take, and I hope people worried about the
future of reX decide to give back -- instead of make a run on the bank
of good will when things look a little cloudy.

Cheers,

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