Ryan McDougall kirjoitti: >> Is it possible to view Realxtend through a normal webpage without >> downloading and installing anything? >> > > This is not possible for any 3D application, as web browsers do not > yet come with 3D rendering capabilities. However this is changing, as >
That said, people have been able to get that experience: run a hardware accelerated 3d scene in / from a web browser 'without installing', for several years now using Java. As Flash for the past years (idiotically?) missed 3d support, that has left the otherwise quite dead Java applet and later Web Start technologies with exactly this niche: enable game etc. makers use opengl in 3d things that run for the user without installing. *Supposing* the user had Java itself installed, like of course the Flash plugin is also required to run (2d) Flash games and apps. That has not been self evident with e.g. Vista shipping without Flash (and I suppose Java too) preinstalled. For example the free-to-play RuneScape MMO is a 3d Java applet, just tested it now and it is running fine on my old mac that's sitting next to this compu here :) There is a quite nice open source 3d engine, quite similar to Ogre which Rex uses, written in Java: http://www.jmonkeyengine.com/ . I think it would be quite straightforward to write a basic Rex&/Opensim compatible viewer using that, in case someone is interested. I've been considering JMe as an option for making 3d games for the web that should be easy to players to start. Instead of the old embedded-within-browser applet technology, Java things nowadays usually use Java Web Start which is just a way to launch a normal application from the browser - so when the app is running the browser is not in-between, it can do normal full screen etc. My son plays a networked football game called power football quite often, it's also a jws opengl thing, and running it has worked well on several computers. Microsoft Silverlight and I guess those Windows Presentation Framework (WPF) things that are used in the MS tech based browser viewer Xenki are a new competitor to both Java and Flash (and Adobe AIR etc) there, interesting to see how that will go. > both Firefox and Chrome will at some point include JavaScript 3D > rendering APIs: > Yah this will be very interesting, IIRC Adam was already testing to make some O3D ClientView to OpenSim. > install within the browser. I have personally found in-browser 3D > viewers to be no more simple to install than a separate program. > It'd be nice for realXtend to do this, but I don't think it's > currently a very high priority. That said, it is open source, so there > Yah. Some apps work so that they are both a standalone app *and* a browser plugin at the same time, I mean the same installer installs them so that they can run as both. Quicktime on Windows and Adobe PDF reading etc. come to mind as examples. ~Toni --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
