my two cents,

languages and most technologies, in fact, on the fringe NEVER get the push
to become mainstream until MS nudges through their corporate platform.

name it, sharepoint is just another example, there are thousands of
collaborative systems.  but the only one which will make a real impact will
be sharepoint.  MS only moves on things that WILL make money... its what
they do.  so they let everyone break their necks, and then buy out or copy
the guys with the good ideas but no more cash.

Java would not have taken off really unless MS had (sort of) supported it.
look at flash... even though its installed practically anywhere, its still a
fringe application used only for simple web development (by the masses I
mean).

if MS where to buy it out or make their own Flash interpreter... they would
then integrate it everywhere and suddenly, you'd hear about Flash in every
MS discussion and suddenly, it would become a mainstream dev platform, and
many would use it for other things. (powerpoint?)

basically, if you invent something, and MS decides to copy/buy/trample you,
that's your indication for success... MS only moves when things are ready
for success, and with their money, can give the final push to make it happen
for real.

This doesn't remove the need and desire for other systems, only that if you
want to generate REVENUE, then the only juggernaught is still today MS.
Some current players ARE changing the landscape though, and Google has
definitively taken MS by surprise by their business model... but that is
just it... its not the technology behind Google which is superior... its
their business model... most of googles products are dead simple, and border
on the barely usefull.

so we must only continue to use REBOL increase the userbase, improve it and
continue to offer faster response times.   its a swiss army knive... just
use it.

-MAx

On 3/23/07, Ed O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >> what makes anyone believe we'll always need the big corporate players?
>
> As long as the Internet isn't legislated away by politicians, we won't.
>
> >> REBOL would be a cool tool for this - if only it was open-source...
>
> With competition from big corporate players and open-source solutions,
> REBOL must find a place in the ecosystem. My hunch is that to remain
> viable, REBOL will need to adapt in one direction or the other.
>
> Regards,
> Ed
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