Couldn't agree with you more about shell access.

I believe it was yesterday that someone posted a script he had written that 
allowed him to send an email via sendmail.  It was a great piece of 
programming, but I find it humorous that he actually had to jump through that 
many hoops just to do something that would be very easy if core included 
shell access.

I've heard the reasons RT gives for not including shell access in core...and 
they just don't wash with me.  But, it's there product.

Jamey.

On Wednesday 14 March 2001 10:08 am, you wrote:
> Paul Tretter wrote:
> > I think that is unimportant right now given that we have compress and
> > already distributed ".rip files.  Seems good enough.  Anyone else?...
>
> I discussed it with Carl some time ago ... and I can't agree here :-)
> According to him, most US users use default Windows Explorer. But in my
> opinion, that piece of code is pretty crap as goes for file manager.
>
> Merely EACH GOOD file manager knows how to treat .zip or other archives -
> as ordinary directory. - you just press enter to enter them, you select
> files wanted - can delete them, edit them, copy them out of the archive.
> .RIP is fine, but I (and probably others too) work almost constantly with
> file manager (Windows Commander in particular).
>
> It's imo needed. IF Rebol/Core would at least support /Shell component, you
> could always call externall app to unpack files for you, but with current
> state of things, we are pretty dead once dealing with existing archives
> .... even RT uses .zip for their product distribution - not .rip ;-)
>
> Just my opinion ...
>
> Anyone else?
>
> -pekr-
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