1. Q: Petr Krenzelok wrote:  I don't want to sound negative, but what do you
need Encap for? Noone will use your script in enterprise if license doesn't
allow it. So - what is Encap good for?
A: It was a little difficult for me to follow your line of logic, or what
you were trying to state.   So I won't make any assumptions about what you
are stating.  

What I will do is state that my goal is to make powerful tools that are
written in a modular form such that multiple tools can share a common base
of source.  That a single program can run on multiple platforms.  That the
programs are small, easy to use, and always being improved, to meet demand
and interest.

Rebol happens to provide this power.  Perl, PHP, and Python (Java for that
matter) do not.  I don't know how many people here have written 600K lines
of Java, but our company has.  I have little interest in Java...ever again.

Currently we are pre-beta testing an app that was written on the PC in
Rebol.  It is encapsulated for Linux and Windows (NT, 2000, 98, XP).  So far
it has run on everything we have tested it on.  Including about 10 different
flavours of Linux.

What Rebol has permitted us to do is not care what the flavour is, but just
code.

Our final product is still a Rebol app.  But only this group will know that.
Most people will not care, and that is great to me.  We have a full
application that including the full Rebol program (with view) is less than
500K!  It comes in the form of an EXE (on Windows) and what ever you like to
name an Exe on Mac, Linux, etc.

 Eventually there will be easier ways to release the product in a compressed
and encrypted ".r" format as well.  So we can put something out in the 20K
range, that matches the power of 2 and 8 meg apps.  

Oh, did I mention the other goal is to SELL this project, for money, and
stuff... :)

Reichart...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Petr Krenzelok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Selling REBOL scripts



Ammon Johnson wrote:

> A little hazy on just what Encap does myself, but I have read the
> agreeement, & it states that you will not allow your Encapped App to
> execute scripts.

I don't want to sound negative, but what do you need Encap for? Noone will
use your
script in enterprise if license doesn't allow it. So - what is Encap good
for?

And after all - you need something to sell. I remember Maarten suggesting
forming
Rebol e-biz suite. So far, there is very few things which can be actually
sold -
Rugby, MySQL protocol, XML stuff from Gavin, XML-RPC and maybe a little
more. Now
go and look at PHP or Python libraries, look what comes for free and shake
your
ideas once again. Am I dreaming or what? We have few solutions which we can
offer
Rebol users to replace their Perl/Python/PHP/etc. stuff with, yet you folks
think
of how to make money of it? I think that that way, we will not really make
it ....

But if you ask me, if I would be willing to pay, I say - yes, I am crazy
enough to
spend some money here. If the money is needed to encourage ppl to write
scripts,
let's just create some system and vote. I will donate:

20USD for PostGressSQL protocol
10 USD for Fast-CGI protocol, both implemented in Rebol level
(something along 10USD for faster, bugfree, native library bindings ...)
50 USD for compliant XML, SOAP, UDDI thing.

... maybe I will not even use above features, but potential Rebol e-biz
suite would
sound much stronger ....

... call me a fanatic now ;-) But now even RT can think of average 100 USD
for
/Command update * number-of-Commands-sold, and contract someone to do the
stuff ...

-pekr-

> HTH
> Ammon
>

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