I am french ... I discovered REBOL with Login Mag and I think it is not a toy ... It is great. Actually I try to make PGM converter, I have a beta version and compared with the same application in Java or C++, Rebol is faster to develop with ...
Arno:) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pat665 Sent: jeudi 19 septembre 2002 16:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] Re: French Rebolution 2002 Hi Jason, Nice translation (nothing to say). By the way, I am not as enthousiastic as Olivier regarding the French Rebolution. I think Rebol is almost unknown in France, and the few who do know it, sees it merely as a cute toy. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Cunliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:25 AM Subject: [REBOL] French Rebolution 2002 Greetings I just got some encouraging REBOL news from Olivier Auverlot, author of the French REBOL Programming book, host of http://rebolfrance.org/, Rebol/Magic! developer and more. I asked him about the growth of REBOL in France. The catalyst was the arrival on newsstands in France of the much loved and respected LOGIN magazine: Issue #14 - a special edition dedicated to REBOL. Following is my translation of Olivier's email. I hope it got it right. Francophones please correct me if you can. I hope to get a copy of the magazine and very curious to learn more about REBOL uptake in French universities and research labs. ./Jason =========================================================================== "The magazine has attracted pretty growth for the newsletter (at least a 100 new subscribers). Messages posted on LOGIN's forum (www.loginmag.com) have been read by approx. 800 people, (compared to 600 for the special edition dedicated to security). On other French language forums, I have met with some "aggressive" behavior regarding Rebol :-( Too bad ! That shows the subject of REBOL rankles, and is becoming better and better known. Not withstanding, I have learnt that sales of my book have picked up (69 copies in 10 days). French [REBOL] projects are many, and often of very high quality (Jabber client, managing medical datafiles, MySQL and PostGreSQL drivers, Magic!, SNMP protocol, etc.). In France, the situation is cool for Rebol !!! Do you know that Rebol is taught and used in several universities and research labs (there's an article in LOGIN's Rebol Special Edition about that). {-- I asked him to clarify what sort of aggressive behavior he had seen towards Rebol--} PHP or Java programmers try to show their language is better (with more or less bad faith). Most of the time they don't even know the subject [Rebol]. On a French Linux Forum, a post about Rebol was even refused because it considered to be "spam and nothing to do with Linux" (!?!). All this is very positive. The important thing is people are discussing Rebol. I am going to do my best, and as quickly as possible, for LOGIN -Olivier > Le magazine a attir� pas mal de nouveau sur la lettre d'information (une > bonne cinquantaine de nouveaux abonn�s). Sur le forum de login > (www.loginmag.com), les messages post�s ont �t� lus par environ 800 > personnes (contre 600 pour le HS pr�c�dent consacr� � la s�curit�). Sur > diff�rents forum francophones, on m'a rapport� des comportements "agressifs" > vis � vis de Rebol :-( Tant mieux ! Cela d�montre que le sujet d�range et > devient de plus en plus connu. Sinon, j'ai appris que les ventes de mon > bouquin avait red�coll�es (69 exemplaires en 10 jours). > > Les projets francophones sont nombreux et tr�s souvent de tr�s bonne qualit� > (client Jabber, gestion de dossiers m�dicaux, protocoles MySQL et > PostgresSQL, Magic!, protocole SNMP, etc.). En France, la situation est > plut�t cool pour Rebol !!! Savez-tu que Rebol est utilis� et enseign� dans > quelques universit�s et dans des laboratoires de recherche (il y a un > article dans le HS Login sur le sujet). > Des programmeurs PHP ou Java tentent de d�montrer que > leur langage est meilleur (avec plus ou moins de mauvaise foi). La plupart > du temps, ils ne connaissent m�me pas le sujet. Sur un forum Linux fran�ais, > un message sur Rebol a �t� refus� car consid�r� comme �tant un "spam sans > rapport avec Linux" (!?!). > > Tout cela est tr�s positif. L'important, c'est qu'on parle de Rebol. > > Je vais faire de mon mieux et le plus vite possible pour le Login. > > - Olivier -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes. ________________________________________________________________ Etudiant: Wanadoo t'offre le Pack eXtense Haut D�bit soit 150,92 euros d'�conomies ! Et pour 1 euro de plus, re�ois le CD-ROM du jeu Dark Age of Camelot + 1 mois de jeu en r�seau offert ! Clique ici : http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/mail.etudiant -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
