Hi Frenchies, and others Ne tirez plus, je me rend ! Nous nous sommes d'ailleurs mal compris ...
I too do not think Rebol is a toy, but it is seen like this by many french person I know. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brice Muangkhot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: [REBOL] Re: French Rebolution 2002 Arnaud, So am I.. If Rebol is a toy, it is a great toy. Terrific; I can work by playing with Rebol ;-)). Seriously, I hope to do something great with Rebol. I was a Java fan, then C#. I think the learning curve with Rebol is the best.. Rebol is young but has a great potential. Graphic components ( Treeview, Tabs, etc..) should be added to make application sexy. Rebol should also provide the way to interface with legacy application easily. I know that Rebol is good with XML may be it can go futher:( by providing database access other than MySql and Oracle, Message Queing, Worklow, etc. Cheers, Brice --- Arnaud Dutartre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit : > I am french ... I discovered REBOL with Login Mag and I think it is not a > toy ... > It is great. Actually I try to make PGM converter, I have a beta version and > compared with the same application in Java or C++, Rebol is faster to > develop with ... > > Arno:) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > pat665 > Sent: jeudi 19 septembre 2002 16:30 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [REBOL] Re: French Rebolution 2002 > > > Hi Jason, > > Nice translation (nothing to say). By the way, I am not as enthousiastic as > Olivier regarding the French Rebolution. I think Rebol is almost unknown in > France, and the few who do know it, sees it merely as a cute toy. > > Patrick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Cunliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:25 AM > Subject: [REBOL] French Rebolution 2002 > > > Greetings > > I just got some encouraging REBOL news from Olivier Auverlot, author of the > French REBOL Programming book, host of http://rebolfrance.org/, Rebol/Magic! > developer and more. > > I asked him about the growth of REBOL in France. The catalyst was the > arrival on > newsstands in France of the much loved and respected LOGIN magazine: Issue > #14 - > a special edition dedicated to REBOL. > > Following is my translation of Olivier's email. I hope it got it right. > Francophones please correct me if you can. I hope to get a copy of the > magazine > and very curious to learn more about REBOL uptake in French universities and > research labs. > > ./Jason > =========================================================================== > > "The magazine has attracted pretty growth for the newsletter (at least a 100 > new > subscribers). Messages posted on LOGIN's forum (www.loginmag.com) have been > read > by approx. 800 people, (compared to 600 for the special edition dedicated to > security). On other French language forums, I have met with some > "aggressive" > behavior regarding Rebol :-( > Too bad ! That shows the subject of REBOL rankles, and is becoming better > and > better known. Not withstanding, I have learnt that sales of my book have > picked > up (69 copies in 10 days). > > French [REBOL] projects are many, and often of very high quality (Jabber > client, > managing medical datafiles, MySQL and PostGreSQL drivers, Magic!, SNMP > protocol, > etc.). In France, the situation is cool for Rebol !!! > > Do you know that Rebol is taught and used in several universities and > research > labs (there's an article in LOGIN's Rebol Special Edition about that). > > {-- I asked him to clarify what sort of aggressive behavior he had seen > towards > Rebol--} > > PHP or Java programmers try to show their language is better (with more or > less > bad faith). Most of the time they don't even know the subject [Rebol]. On a > French Linux Forum, a post about Rebol was even refused because it > considered to > be "spam and nothing to do with Linux" (!?!). > > All this is very positive. > The important thing is people are discussing Rebol. > I am going to do my best, and as quickly as possible, for LOGIN > > -Olivier > > > > Le magazine a attir� pas mal de nouveau sur la lettre d'information (une > > bonne cinquantaine de nouveaux abonn�s). Sur le forum de login > > (www.loginmag.com), les messages post�s ont �t� lus par environ 800 > > personnes (contre 600 pour le HS pr�c�dent consacr� � la s�curit�). Sur > > diff�rents forum francophones, on m'a rapport� des comportements > "agressifs" > > vis � vis de Rebol :-( Tant mieux ! Cela d�montre que le sujet d�range et > > devient de plus en plus connu. Sinon, j'ai appris que les ventes de mon > > bouquin avait red�coll�es (69 exemplaires en 10 jours). > > > > Les projets francophones sont nombreux et tr�s souvent de tr�s bonne > qualit� > > (client Jabber, gestion de dossiers m�dicaux, protocoles MySQL et > > PostgresSQL, Magic!, protocole SNMP, etc.). En France, la situation est > > plut�t cool pour Rebol !!! Savez-tu que Rebol est utilis� et enseign� dans > > quelques universit�s et dans des laboratoires de recherche (il y a un > > article dans le HS Login sur le sujet). > > > Des programmeurs PHP ou Java tentent de d�montrer que > > leur langage est meilleur (avec plus ou moins de mauvaise foi). La plupart > > du temps, ils ne connaissent m�me pas le sujet. Sur un forum Linux > fran�ais, > > un message sur Rebol a �t� refus� car consid�r� comme �tant un "spam sans > > rapport avec Linux" (!?!). > > > > Tout cela est tr�s positif. L'important, c'est qu'on parle de Rebol. > > > > Je vais faire de mon mieux et le plus vite possible pour le Login. > > > > - Olivier > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Etudiant: Wanadoo t'offre le Pack eXtense Haut D�bit soit 150,92 euros > d'�conomies ! > Et pour 1 euro de plus, re�ois le CD-ROM du jeu Dark Age of Camelot > + 1 mois de jeu en r�seau offert ! > Clique ici : http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/mail.etudiant > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes. > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes. > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran�ais ! 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