irene wrote
nukkan is a hello a farewell a statement of peace my name is irene
nukkan.
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> From: Judi Monticone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [recoznet2] misunderstandings
> Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 3:57 PM
>
> To Nukkan and Don and Karyn,
> Thanks for your conversations regarding Kevin. I have met Kevin Buzzacot
and I appreciate his utter
> frustration at us white people as we have come and taken, and we are
destroying this land. He has a reason
> to be short with people but I have listened to him a lot and agree that
we (white) people have not honoured
> the First Nations people in coming onto this land. I marched up the hill
on the Thursday morning with the
> Aboriginal people after their spears were stolen, quite gladly, to the
New PH. We (Anglos) have broken just
> about every promise we ever made and still we are pursuing a genocidal
path that ultimately will lead to our
> self destruction as a nation if we don't stop and listen. Please forgive
us as we are very quick to judge
> and act with our own selfish motives. I support Kevin and the work for
Justice that he is doing. This is a
> long and lonely road but one day it will happen with support and
encouragement from those who are real with
> our history. Thankyou Karyn for trying to understand and I want to
congratulate you on this journey that you
> are on, please continue and grow as you do. Thankyou Nukkan for being so
patient with us and I hope that
> more of us (whities) take your advise and use our ears and eyes more than
our mouth. Listening to Elders who
> have wisdom is something that us Anglo's have lost the art of and I hope
that one day this will return.
> Regards
> Judi
>
> Don Clark wrote:
>
> > Irene,
> >
> > I am wondering why you think that a person who percieves that a meeting
with
> > another person is negative is "insulting". Surely she is entitled to
an
> > opinion and an interpretation of that meeting.
> >
> > I was not there so I do not know if Karyn's interpretation is right or
> > wrong. Were you there in order to determine the rightness or wrongness
of
> > that statement?
> >
> > Don
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: irene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thursday, 29 April 1999 2:22
> > Subject: Re: [recoznet2] karyns bio
> >
> > >irene watson wrote
> > >
> > >quite clearly you learned nothing from one of our elders kevin
buzzacott,
> > >the way you have interpreted his advise is clearly one of the reasons
we as
> > >nungas tire of speaking to you. you dont listen properly
> > >like our elders have said we were born with two ears and two eyes and
one
> > >mouth
> > >one should spend twice as much time listening and watching than
speaking.
> > >
> > >my advise to you is dont interpret our relationship to the land we are
> > >quite capable of doing it ourselves it is for you to interpret yours,
you
> > >need to travel for the thousands of years that it will take you back
home
> > >again
> > >you can take it literally, spiritually, pschycially any way you like
but
> > >you are not a nunga here you are home somewhere else and thats your
journey
> > >just as mine is mine and i am quite capable of the interpretation of
that
> > >for myself as you are yours
> > >
> > >nukkan
> > >
> > >i wonder why i am a member of a group like this where there is no
response
> > >to one who insults one of our respected elders.
> > >
> > >----------
> > >> From: karyn fearnside <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Subject: [recoznet2] karyns bio
> > >> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 7:44 AM
> > >>
> > >> Hello everyone,
> > >>
> > >> I haven't really introduced myself, so here goes:
> > >>
> > >> I am a 33 year old white female, my fathers family hail from
Britain,
> > >> Yorkshire to be exact, and arrived in Adelaide during the 60's. My
> > >> mothers mother was born the eldest of 10 children in Kadina, SA, and
> > >> according to my birth certificate, my mum was born at Wallaroo. As
far
> > >> as I know, my grandad came over form Cornwall and worked on my great
> > >> grandparent's farm at the age of 15. This was where he met my
> > >> grandmother. All I can remember of her was that she was a very
> > >> religious woman, and took me to Sunday school when we visited them
in
> > >> Karoonda, SA, where they had a sheep and wheat farm. I also remember
> > >> her doing a lot of work with the aborigines that lived on the edge
of
> > >> the small town.
> > >>
> > >> I was born in Canberra, and spent some of my early years going to
> > >> school overseas, firstly a British school in Kathmandu, and then an
> > >> American one. I didn't learn anything about aboriginal people when I
> > >> was at school in Australia, but I did hear about Captain Cook, and
got
> > >> the general idea that the aboriginal people living a traditional
life
> > >> style were a thing of the past. I was quite cross to realise that I
> > >> had been brainwashed. Firstly I didn't know any aboriginal kids, and
> > >> if I did, I didn't think anything of it, maybe from growing up
> > >> overseas, used to being surrounded by all nationalities. Only
recently
> > >> when I finished my degree in visual art, majoring in textiles at the
> > >> Canberra School of Art, did I take stock of the situation and
realise
> > >> that I had been lied to. Now I think that the Aboriginal history of
> > >> this country is exciting, and that children should be learning it at
> > >> school. I think that we should be learning the place names of the
> > >> aboriginal states, I think that we should acknowledge the original
> > >> cultures, and embrace our multiculturalism, for us all to be able to
> > >> live on this continent, honouring the country, respecting each
other.
> > >>
> > >> I remember thinking that all my life I had been slightly jealous of
> > >> America for having the American Indians, and that whole mystical
> > >> approach to life, and the Negro's for bringing all that they had
done
> > >> by hanging onto their culture, and still being able to see their
roots
> > >> from Africa.
> > >>
> > >> I did start to become quite philosophical and look at new age ideas
> > >> in search of some thing that I could be interested in especially in
a
> > >> spiritual way. I checked out Wicca because I thought I should
> > >> acknowledge my British heritage, not feeling particularly interested
> > >> in white male god Christian beliefs. It was very interesting but not
> > >> what I really wanted to spend a lot of time doing. I guess I feel
> > >> quite content with my own ideas about creation, and the way the
world
> > >> operates. There is a rich culture existing here, very much in the
> > >> magnitude of the American Indians, I now realise, which we should
> > >> preserve at all costs.
> > >>
> > >> Most of my artwork has been of a political nature, usually focusing
on
> > >> the hardships of animals bred for factory farming, battery eggs and
so
> > >> forth. I did a website as part of my final year's work, and if
anyone
> > >> wants to check it out they can at:
> > >>
> > >> Its got 10 pages all up, and when you get to the little piccies
don't
> > >> forget to click on one. Anyway, I am rambling!! I was awarded a
> > >> 6-month studio space with an exhibition as part of an emarging
artists
> > >> support scheme (EASS). I decided to do a piece of art work that was
> > >> current with the times, and was particularly interested in ideas of
> > >> reconciliation, and began to apply my thoughts along the lines I had
> > >> been taught to explore from art school. I read Bringing Australia
> > >> Together, and began to realise a bit about what had been going on. I
> > >> went to Old Parliament house to find an aboriginal to talk to at the
> > >> tent embassy, about what I was thinking and working on. I took along
> > >> the first few photographs I had of my work
> > >>
> > >> I met Kevin Buzzacott, who was extremely negative and told me that
us
> > >> whities should go back where we came from I tried to make light of
the
> > >> situation, and said that I had been there, and it wasn't very nice.
I
> > >> wasn't real impressed with the whole meeting, and didn't really try
to
> > >> hard after that to meet up with other aborigines.
> > >>
> > >> I decided to try the Internet to get information, which was when I
> > >> became a member of recoznet!
> > >> I went ahead with my artwork, believing that the work I would
produce
> > >> would reach the right audience. Sadly, I learnt my first lesson in
the
> > >> real art world as I didn't really get as much public response as I
> > >> wanted�but then again, how else are you meant to learn.
> > >> The work was called 'Stunting', and consisted of 15 Hansards, which
I
> > >> had carved into and inserted little scenarios, and a black/white
human
> > >> shadow on the wall/floor made out of computer labels, the black
figure
> > >> on the wall made with labels saying 'Australia the lucky country'
and
> > >> the white shadow on the floor, made of derogatory words such as
> > >> genocide, colonise, monoculture, poverty, marginalise...
> > >> I did well in that I sold a few pieces, and got some fantastic
> > >> comments.
> > >>
> > >> Now I am working towards my next artwork something along the lines
of
> > >> alerting people to the nature of the relationship that aborigines
> > >> share with their land. I like to work with things and make them look
> > >> beautiful, to draw people in and then share something intimate when
I
> > >> have their attention.
> > >>
> > >> Okay I think that s all for now, otherwise I shall ramble on and on,
> > >> and I will never post this! If people are interested in looking at
my
> > >> work more closely, they can contact me, and I can e-mail images to
> > >> them.
> > >>
> > >> cheers karyn
> > >>
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