don 
it was not a petition - u were not presented with any petition at yr
meeting!!!!!  have u lost the submission? if not read it again and u will see 

'sending me alone' refered to going to yr meeting - nothing at all to do with
my private email to someone else - which u have read and responded to
 
what was sent to yr 'what now for nsw aborigines' meeting was not off topic -
read it!!!
many at the meeting insisted that ray read it out - finally, at nearly the end
of the meeting - ray called for a vote from the floor because of pressure from
those gathered - u and ray were the only two who didn't want it read out as the
show of hands revealed - u both blocked it to the last - so much for yr claims
to democractic process - it was begrudgingly read out with contempt and sarcasm
and slights about anarchist web spaces ... rather than focusing on what was
said in the submission

if u think what happened at yr meeting was democratic - then there is not much
hope for democracy - the only hint of democracy was when the audience pressured
for it to be read
and i call this courage, not democracy which would have required no pressure

there is solid proof (video) of what happened at yr 'public' meeting, and the
agro and silencing that abounded - anyone who wasn't there and feels that they
now need some tangible 'evidence' let me know and i will try to find the video
- if u weren't there that is

a contribution for a tape, copying and mailing it would be appreciated as i am
not funded, or send a blank video (vhs) to PO Box 1 Eora Country (Annandale
NSW) 2038 with stamped addressed envelope and allow time to locate it (have to
find the person) then copy it

my post to this list about the grandmothers' petition has nothing to do with
the isja - isja is just one org that wont support it - not because they doubt
me i think as isja didn't support an active postion on the block before meeting
me 

again
individuals interested can send their individual contact and affiliation
details which will be forwarded on - if anyone wants to put this invitation
into a newsletter - go ahead - would be please to get lots of people who are
interested in the ISSUES that affect daily life on the block

for u personally don - i am happy to meet u on the block for discussion - let
me know when u are available - spare the list the details please and advise me
directly

can we discuss on this list, issues that have been raised on the block? 
the reasons that isja is not supporting the block would be a good start - i
don't mean because of division (individuals) within the group - i mean the
reasons in relation to the issues and non support

cheerless
susanne

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