On 1 Dec 2000, at 22:18, Crook, Karen wrote:
> I don't blame Ayour friend for walking out of the interview, I bloody would
> have walked out also.
>
> JIM SAID: There's nothing necessarily wrong with the apprenticeship model as
> a mode of entry, it just MUST be complemented by a graduate entry, and
> senior appointment system from - without the culture - so ably defined and
> analysed by Fitzgerald. I'm told now some 60% of police recruits to Hendon
> in the UK (The Metropolitan Police College) are university graduates before
> they commence police training.
>
> Jim, I'd like to know what you find so wrong with people being university
> graduates?? The QPS asks that recruits have some, or completed, study of a
> degree and have relevant life experience. It was changed to try and find
> people who instead of being fresh faced out of uni thinking they knew it
> all. It was best to have people who could show they could handle the study
> capacity - vital for being promoted through the ranks and showing capability
> to handle the job as you progress - and people who had lived a bit i.e
> experience in military, medical, dealing with people, social work,
> interaction with different people etc etc.
>
> Also, if you were to find out what is available in the way of traineeships
> and training for ATSI people interested in joining the Service, whether as
> an officer, PLO or other, you will see that the QPS is by no means a racist
> body. However, havign said that, that does not mean there are not some bad
> apples in the cart and these people are often discovered and dealt with.
> There is no place for them in the Service. Nobody should be inhumanely and
> unfairly treated because of the way they were born.
Don't find anything wrong, as long as its not the only mode of entry. I
suggest you read the Fitzgerald Report. My point about Hendon is that in
Australia we are only just commencing this professionalisation journey, it
began in the UK in the 1960s. Us colonials roam somewhere behind the
mother country anywhere from 25 to 100 years, and we're supposed to be the
young and vigorous? I think the anthropological term for it is
displacement.
Anyway, how to fix our cops, given their colonial heritage of genocide,
rapine, state sanctioned murder?
Fresh blood, promotion only on qualification, and periodic injection of the
odd senior officer from overseas, UK, USA, Canada, Norway, Germany etc....
I went to some lectures by "Prof. Dr. Christian Pfeiffer" about 10 years
ago and his ideas and analysis started me thinking. His web page is at:
http://www.jura.uni-hannover.de/Lehrgebiete/krim.htm
if you can read German!
His opening question to the Ministry of Justice, Police and Penal managers
of WA was "In a sentence or two, what is the role of the criminal justice
system in this jurisdiction?"
tra
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