I respectfully disagree with Michael on this one. I think that there
is a way to explain how to create a basic Red5 application in a simple
manner that doesn't go into Spring and Java in detail. This is
especially true now that we have added the server-side scripting
capabilities. Perhaps we should focus on this way of development
first.

I think that the API for Red5 can be confusing, but once you get the
concepts it's really not that bad. And at any rate, I'm not sure that
you need to know too much about Spring to build Red5 applications in
Java. If one chooses they can hook up one main class via the
configuration and do the rest without the IoC container.

With this said, it's going to be a challenge though. And Michael even
admitted that there should be a way to do it.

On 11/9/06, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/9/06, Michael Klishin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 12:51 -0500, hank williams wrote:
> > > > What do you mean a walk through of a simple demo app, you mean document
> > > > how the current examples work, i think most are str8 forward but there
> > > > is def no docs for them.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What "getting started" docs often do is take a relatively simple
> > > example and walk through what each step is and why you are doing it.
> > > For example, if you look at the flash media server documentation, that
> > > is exactly what they do. They take simple examples and explain what is
> > > being done and why. It gives the writer an ability to explain a little
> > > bit of the system design in a practical easy to understand context.
> >
> > The problem is that we have to explain a lot of Java world stuff and
> > pack it in a short tutorial. You can't understand what to do if you
> > don't know how it works, to know how it works you have to know basics of
> > Spring and the language.
> >
>
> Jeez, I hope this isnt true. You mean to use red5 you need to know
> spring and Java? If this is so, I think it is a design issue. You
> really cant expect people that want a media server to need to
> understand *anything* about spring. The intersection of people that
> know java & spring & flash is a venn diagram containing about 5
> people, and they all work on the red5 team! (just kidding). But
> seriously can we talk about this! Can you elaborate.
>
> Hank
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