Nathan does bring a refreshing view.  I don't believe any of the team is a
starving struggling dev or I hope not anyway ;).  But I think the intention
was to add more resources to a project that many people feel strongly
about.  One thing is for sure, RedHat, JBoss and other groups would not have
gotten to where they are without financial support.  I'm not sure what the
answer is to all of this, but so far we have had lots of support from groups
who have donated massive amounts of time to testing on their dedicated
servers.  It's a good thread and its nice to know that the community still
feels like chipping in ;).  cheers!

On 4/27/07, Nathan P. Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Morning,

My view of this conversation, while well intentioned, feels misguided.

We have plenty of choices and opportunities to not only make money, but a
variety of things and places to spend it.  There isn't a shortage of that.

However, this project represents the efforts of people doing something
because they really WANT to do it - not because they HAVE to do it.  That
isn't something that we have the opportunity to appreciate, much less
enjoy participating in, very often.  It's unique, fresh, and visionary -
in the sense that it is NOT something that anyone is compelled to or
expected to contribute to if they're not comfortable or able to do so.

In short, when the time comes that the project needs certain resources to
continue, then I think they will be forthcoming - but let us not try to
create solutions for problems that don't exist yet, and hopefully won't.

I'm extremely grateful for this whole Red5 experince - it's been very
educational and enlightening for me personally - it's quite exciting
working with these things, being creative, and doing something novel with
lots of other like minded people.  A big THANK YOU to everyone!

=)

Nathan


On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Lenny Sorey wrote:

> Well,
>
> If no one else says anything, I will start it off.
>
> I am in for $50 and will volunteer to setup a separate server for
testing
> here
> for those folks who run Windows / Tomcat.
>
> I can keep the server updated with the latest from the Trunk for testing
if
> that will help.
>
> Also, if someone needs a place to test something where it needs testing
from
> many sources (users)
> I can also make arrangements for that as well.
>
>  Would be nice if those folks who runs other operating systems (i.e.
> different flavors
> of Linux) and of course you Mac folks, could do the same. We could then
> document
> what we do on the RED5 Wiki for others to benefit.
>
> I really like the idea of us all jumping in and helping one another.
This is
> why I have really
> enjoyed this project. If we all help one another, this truly make this
open
> source project unique
> and will draw the attention of other talent people who hopefully will
want
> to help and share as well.
>
> As I have said in previous posts, this is truly an unselfish group of
folks
> that want to help one another.
>
> I know that my team and I will testing like crazy. Don't mind helping
> others.
>
> In our other Projects, (we are mainly a Java house), we use Hibernate,
> Tapestry, Hivemind, Spring with our developments.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lenny
>
> On 4/26/07, Ruben Waitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > What about a financial donation from the list to push Red5 even
harder?
> >
> > Let's say if 500 ppl volunteer to donate $50,-....That's $ 25000,-
> > Maybe with that money download servers and "spare time" of the
developers
> > can be financed.
> >
> > Gr,
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> >
> >
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