Martijn,

On 6/19/07, Martijn van Beek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

To everybody who has network issues with the link I posted. Please give me
details like: browser, flash player version, firewalls, etc. Network
failures aren't logged if you can't reach the server.

Mark, the problem is the I/O that's why I'm posting this. But I'm glad
that FMS has the same problem ;).


I guess that you are referring to FMS without clustering. The Edge/Origin
solution of FMS provides a cache system on Edge so that the VOD can be
directly distributed to clients on Edge, thus alleviate the load from
Storage server accessed by Origin.

The only solution I can think about is the creation of a system which
divides the load over multiple disks/systems. Expensive but effective.

On 6/19/07, Mark de Jong [NetMasters BV] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Martijn,
>
> Be sure to check out the I/O of the server. We've had the same issues on
> a
> edge-server (yes, edge/origin) from a client from us and I/O was the
> bottleneck for this. They have a lot of seeking (and hundreds of files)
> and
> it was VERY I/O intensive. I don't now how Red5 handles this but it is
> worth
> checking this out first before going on to next steps.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mark de Jong
>
> ________________________________
>
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens
> Martijn van Beek
> Verzonden: maandag 18 juni 2007 10:32
> Aan: [email protected]
> Onderwerp: Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams
>
>
> I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the problem then
> appears when a lot of people access the file at the same time but all at
> a
> different position (in time).
>
>
> On 6/17/07, Steven Gong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>         Orion,
>
>
>         On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
>
>
>                 While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV
> data in
> the stream,
>                 perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could
> be
> clustered so
>                 that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at
> each
> server, any
>                 server could pick up the stream and start serving it
> based
> on the metadata
>                 about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file,
> current
> position of
>                 buffers, stuff like that).
>
>
>         Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the client.
> But
> as we also need to track the client buffer, we are using a scheduled
> task to
> push the VOD content to the client.
>
>         I was thinking of sharing the connection buffer across the
> cluster
> if the connection is of type RTMPTConnection. When the connection is of
> type
> RTMPT, we use a buffer for each connection to save the packets that will
> be
> sent to the client. These packets includes AV packets, RSO packets,
> invocation result etc. When the client's request is distributed to one
> of
> the node, the server retrieves packets in the buffer and sends to the
> client. So all kinds of services, regardless of VOD, Live or RSO, can be
> shared without the need to share the whole connection or stream objects.
>
>
>         What do you think?
>
>
>
>
>                 Of course, I share Steve Harris's lack of knowledge of
> the
> internals of
>                 Red5, so my observation might be dumb, nonsensical, or
> both
> for which I
>                 apologize in advance.
>
>
>                 Steve,
>
>                 On 6/16/07, sharrissf < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>  > wrote:
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has
> multiple
> people accessing
>                 > it
>                 > I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta.
> Though I
> would need to
>                 > know
>                 > more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar
>
> with how they work
>                 > and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in
> this
> case is
>                 > essentially sharing the same stream so really only one
> instance ends up in
>                 > each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each
> user
> is only in the
>                 > jvm
>                 > where the person is connected.
>
>
>                 The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like
> what
> Remote
>                 SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it
> can
> be clustered by
>                 TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic
> because
>                 (1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of
> RSO.
> So much more data
>                 will be transfered across the nodes.
>                 (2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency
> will also arise and
>                 the real time requirement of live streaming is
> compromised.
>
>                 Anyway we can implement it technically and whether it's
> practical will be
>                 decided by the application.
>
>                 --
>                 View this message in context:
>
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