You got it Sean! That's exactly right.

I'm glad that my response was helpful to many of you guys. Lenny,
thanks for asking that great question to begin with.

-Chris

On 6/26/07, Sean Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Thanks again for your explanation Chris! So if I'm to understand this
> right, whereas a project like AMFPHP supports flash remoting with PHP on the
> server side, Red% supports flas remoting with Java on the server side?
>
> Regards,
>
> Sean
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:41:43 -0600
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Red5] Question about AMF Remote Objects
>
>
> Hey Chris,
>
> Thanks so much for your layman explanation.
>
> This I understand.
>
> In a sense, I have been doing this partially via Shared Objects
> which I like very much.
>
> I have heard AMF Gateway mentioned so much that I thought I would
> step up to the plate, play dumb and ask the question.
>
> RTMP is basically a SOAP approach, which is good. Sometime persistent
> is a good thing.
>
> And the HTTP response is pretty Much a Post and Request item.
>
> This leads me to another question or should I say a request of both camps
> that support either AMF via RMPT or AMF via HTTP.
>
> What are the strengths and weaknesses of both?
>
> I will have to admit, I really thought AMF Gateway talking was talking about
> connecting
> one RED5 server to another RED5 Server and passing items back and forth to
> each other
> which with either solution I guess is possible.
>
> But again, thanks for your insight and comments.
>
> And I also agree with Jeremy Lu. This is one of the best explanations I have
> heard.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lenny
>
>
> On 6/25/07, Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lenny,
>
> Think of AMF like this. It's a binary data format for passing objects
> to and from the Flash player.
>
> You can send these objects over RTMP, which means it's a persistent
> connection over TCP. Things can flow back and forth over this
> connection like a pipe that allows stuff to flow in both directions.
> Things in this case are AMF objects. Most of the examples shipped with
> Red5 are using this method.
>
> You can also pass AMF objects over HTTP, meaning a call and response
> protocol. So it goes something like this Flash connects to the server
> and Flash says: "server give me this object", the server responds,
> "here it is", and it hands the AMF object to Flash and closes the
> connection.
>
> With HTTP there's no way for Flash to be passed something by the
> server without it making a connection again and requesting it. The
> down side of RTMP is that the connection is always there taking up
> resources.
>
> Passing AMF objects like this over HTTP is called "Flash remoting".
>
> I hope my explanation combined with the links that Thijs sent you is
> helping.
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
> On 6/25/07, Lenny Sorey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At the risk of looking ignorant, which by the way I will admit I am, I
> > realize that I don't know anything
> > about AMF Remote Objects.
> >
> > Please bear with me on this one.
> >
> > Exactly what is AMF?
> > Are there any examples besides the one on Echo Test?
> > Where can I get some info to read up on this so that I can start to
> > understand this
> > and I can at least ask an intelligent question about AMF?
> >
> > I have worked with using remote objects successfully with the Video
> > Conference app I have
> > but have no idea how this would work with AMF.
> >
> > Sorry if question seems a bit stupid, but as Forrest Grump says
> > "Stupid is as Stupid does".
> >
> > Right now, Stupid is asking a question about AMF. : )
> >
> > Thanks,
>  >
> > Lenny
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