Mea Culpa then. Of course it was just my observation and certainly I did not mean to categorize you as a single tracker. I made the obervation because I've come across with people who were really "disgusted" with RedDot and when I look at their qualification and background, they all seem to be in love with one specific platform or programming language and normally resent the fact that RedDot does not offer a clear, ready and out-of-the-box solutions for their problems.
So in that sense, you are definitely an exception and I am really looking forward to reading your blogs to find out the RedDot features (or the lack of them) that disappointed you. Henry Lu On Nov 17, 3:22 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Henry, > > It's interesting that you say that people expressing a strong opinion > regards RedDot after just a year are speaking too soon. I would have > thought that a year spent evaluating a piece of software would be > enough to give one at least a reasonable opinion of its strengths and > weaknesses. > > Your point about specialisation is a particularly relevant one: I am > exactly one of those "jack of all trades" developers of which you > speak. I've been a software engineer for 10 years and have worked with > c, c++, java, python, php, and perl. I've worked on both UNIX and > Windows and in technologies ranging from server maintenance, database > design, and front-end web client programming. I'm not saying this to > show off - I certainly am not a 'master' and sometimes wish I were - > but it's strange that this is so contrary to your experience. > > My very opinions of RedDot are heavily based on sound engineering > principles: data-driven programming, the advantages of transparency, > reducing complexity, DRY, etc. I hope that will become more obvious > once I've written more than one blog post :-) > > On Nov 17, 8:12 pm, "Henry Lu, Sun Certified Java Programmer" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is really a subject of contention and I want to venture some > > observation. > > > People who either say they love RedDot CMS or hate RedDot CMS after just ONE > > year of dealing with it, normally err on the side of "speaking too soon." > > There is plenty of reason to hate RedDot and to love it; it all depends on > > what the project you are working forces you to expect from this CMS. And you > > may switch sides too due to circumstances. > > > But my advice is to not jump on any early conclusion. > > > The other observation is that "single trackers" normally dislike RedDot -- > > people who have single-track Java background, or C# or PHP etc. On the flip > > side, "jacks of all trades" normally love RedDot. In other words, people who > > love to "hack around" find out the inards of a piece of software normally > > gravitate toward RedDot. > > > I myself really enjoy building a RedDot project, particularly when I have > > some say in its architecture. There are quite a few really good foundamental > > concepts that I have not found in other CMS systems. And most importantly, > > RedDot is a really "open" playground. All you need to do is decoupling the > > data layer and the presentation layer of your project and BANG! You open a > > door to a new world with limitless possibility. > > > I've used RedDot to build data capturing UIs that most non-coders like and > > on the data consumption side, transfroming the data into anything you may > > need -- JSON, XML(to drive Flash) or componentized html blocks ... > > > Henry Lu > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Wayne Bouwmeester < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > hmmm... and when I said "whole heatedly" I really meant > > > "wholeheartedly" > > > Good think I'm not an English major. > > > > On Nov 17, 12:44 pm, Wayne Bouwmeester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi a1234587, if that is indeed your real name :) > > > > I've been using RedDot now, as an implementer, for slightly more than > > > > 6 years and I whole heatedly disagree with your post. > > > > > RedDot is not a terrible piece of software, and it doesn't have a HUGE > > > > amount of problems, although I guess that's a relative term, and > > > > really depends on how things have been setup for you. > > > > There are several very large websites powered by RedDot, and they seem > > > > to be up and running. > > > > It has it's quirks, same as any other software, but if it were a bunchl > > > > of crap (my words, not yours), it would have tanked years ago because > > > > people wouldn't by it. > > > > In the end, the benefits far outweigh the glitches. If you think the > > > > amount of $ a client pays for the software, think about how much the > > > > executives at Hummingbird, and later OpenText paid to acquire it. > > > > People are always going to complain about it, because people like to > > > > complain - I like to complain. > > > > The complaints only gain credibility when a better option can be > > > > shown, for the same price. > > > > > Sounds like you just had a bad day - or maybe a bad year - I've had > > > > some "I hate RedDot" days but in the end, I love working with the > > > > product. > > > > Kinda like my love/hate relationship with the stuff Microsoft puts > > > > out, but it's kept me employed for 12 years. > > > > > I notice this is your only post to the group - maybe we can help you > > > > with your frustrations - if you post them here. > > > > In any event, hope your RedDot problems improve! > > > > Wayne. > > > > > On Nov 17, 9:51 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > > > I've been using RedDot for slightly more than a year now, and I've > > > > > taken as much as I can. I finally have to get the HUGE amount of > > > > > problems, bugs, and general complaints about this terrible piece of > > > > > software off my chest. Building a decent CMS is hard, of course, but > > > > > if you can't do it right, certainly don't charge huge amounts of money > > > > > for it. > > > > > > My opinionated ramblings are here: > > > > > >http://reddotgripes.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > All comments welcome. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
